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Malibu/Axis vs. Centurion your experiences please

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Wakejunky    0

Hello,

New to the forum, been researching the Centurion brand as a possible new boat. I've heard great things here and on TheMalibuCrew and i just wanted to get some direct feedback. I Purchased a new in 2014 Axis A22 and to say the least it was a horrific experience. Experience with the Dealer as well as manufacturer has pushed us in search of a brand with some integrity, we will never consider them again. We are just curious if all boat brands are heading in the same direction. 

Ive recognized so many names here that I've seen on TMC and Would love to hear about your experiences coming from Malibu/Axis or any other brand, at both the dealer and manufacturer levels. If you would rather not publicly discuss it please private message me.  

Thanks,

Doug

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InfinitySurf    214

All brands are gonna have some issues, these are hand built boats and there is the human error factor. So the key is how the manufacture and dealer handles them. The right dealer is gonna be the key, they can make/break the boat you choose and IMO, Fineline/Centurion is top-notch. I started off with a bad dealer (mainly cause the boat was not bought from them as it was purchased out of State and is not necessarily the best choice someone can make) but was able to turn that around due to the support of the manufacture

For me, Fineline has been awesome and stepped up any time there was any warranty issue and went above and beyond, on my 2014 there has been nothing major and nothing that as kept me off the water.

I am not into bashing other brands, all the new brands are doing a good job putting out great boats, some seem to be better at QC and I have heard that Malibu has gone downhill in that dept....but again much of that is dealer related since they are supposed to do the final checks. If possible, demo as much as you can and chose the boat you love...with the dealer who you feel is going to support you and be there for you. Good luck on the search!

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BoardCo    95

One of the best things I could recommend is to jump on the Official Centurion / Supreme Owner's group on Facebook. There are A LOT of former Malibu owners on the page and they can give you a direct comparison on what they have experienced when they switched brands.

 

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wheels    147

What centurion boat are you looking at?

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wheels    147

I came from a 15 Malibu lsv and now have a 17 ri237. I could not be happier with the ri. I have found the ri to check every box for my needs and leaves nothing to be desired. Either the ri or fi I believe will blow you away. 

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gravity12    82

Wakejunky. You are in cda correct? Have seen the new Centurions due to no dealers around but was not impressed at all with axis i have seen and the malibus have really lost the high end fit and finish i remember. I love my 2006 centurion amd if i could i would not hesitate to buy one of the new ones. 

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NW Vettes    12
23 hours ago, gravity12 said:

Wakejunky. You are in cda correct? Have seen the new Centurions due to no dealers around but was not impressed at all with axis i have seen and the malibus have really lost the high end fit and finish i remember. I love my 2006 centurion amd if i could i would not hesitate to buy one of the new ones. 

I have a Supreme S238 on CDA at black rock marina and upgrading to Fi23 this winter. We have a friend with black and white Ri257 on CDA that is unreal to surf behind. 

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Wakejunky    0

No cda here. I have family that would love for me to move their, but that's not gonna happen for awhile. Sounds like I need to find a different user name. Sorry for the confusion.

Thanks for all the input, keep it coming. I know there are more converts out there. 

How willing are dealers to do warranty work when the need arrives? I had to pull teeth and hair prior. Something about the low reimbursement and it was a price point boat, but I'm sure they knew that getting into the game. Have heard Nautique's  reimbursement is excellent and they bend over backwards to fix every little issue. How's centurion's?

Just a little background Info that has brought me to this point: My Axis spent a combined 270 days at the dealer in just the first two years. It was completely unacceptable. The more they worked on it the worse it got. I just don't want to repeat the experience. Coming from the automotive industry QC was a complete joke. Is their a boat company that is on par with Toyota's QC?

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gravity12    82
9 hours ago, NW Vettes said:

I have a Supreme S238 on CDA at black rock marina and upgrading to Fi23 this winter. We have a friend with black and white Ri257 on CDA that is unreal to surf behind. 

What dealer are you getting Centurion through? I'm in spokane also. 

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BoardCo    95
11 hours ago, Wakejunky said:

No cda here. I have family that would love for me to move their, but that's not gonna happen for awhile. Sounds like I need to find a different user name. Sorry for the confusion.

Thanks for all the input, keep it coming. I know there are more converts out there. 

How willing are dealers to do warranty work when the need arrives? I had to pull teeth and hair prior. Something about the low reimbursement and it was a price point boat, but I'm sure they knew that getting into the game. Have heard Nautique's  reimbursement is excellent and they bend over backwards to fix every little issue. How's centurion's?

Just a little background Info that has brought me to this point: My Axis spent a combined 270 days at the dealer in just the first two years. It was completely unacceptable. The more they worked on it the worse it got. I just don't want to repeat the experience. Coming from the automotive industry QC was a complete joke. Is their a boat company that is on par with Toyota's QC?

Warranty and service vary from dealer to dealer, but generally most Centurion dealers are top notch from my experience. There are exceptions for sure, but generally speaking they do a superior job to what you get from your average Malibu dealership.

As far as QC goes, nobody is on par with Toyota in the marine industry and honestly, they can't be. The technology and engineering that Toyota can afford, along with production capacity will draw out patterns for issues that can be addressed more easily. It's the benefit of building hundreds of thousands of vehicles vs. hundreds of boats.

With that said, the QC that goes into Centurion, Supreme and Nautique is the best in the business. There is a reason a Centurion boat has a 8-10 day build time and a Malibu is 4-5. There are multiple steps in the process that Correct Craft does that are either minimalized by other manufacturers or omitted entirely. This accounts for a lot of issues that customers are seeing with boats that are being built by companies that are more accountable to their shareholders than their customers.

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Gdmatson    26
On 12/3/2018 at 10:14 PM, wheels said:

I came from a 15 Malibu lsv and now have a 17 ri237. I could not be happier with the ri. I have found the ri to check every box for my needs and leaves nothing to be desired. Either the ri or fi I believe will blow you away. 

Came from the same boat as Wheels to a 18 Ri237. Same result, I couldn’t be happier with the decision! Good luck finding a new boat.

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