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N8 Froelich    12

I've been trying to get my local dealer to look into this for me. They emailed Fineline and got an email back with an image of a 3/4" copper valve. They have no idea, I'll take the high road and leave it at that.

 

Does anyone have a dealer or manufacturer contact that they'd recommend and be willing to share? I'm hoping I can order, pay, and have em' shipped to me. Does anyone know the Valtera part #. We have an 2011 Enzo 240+.

 

After all the reading and mixed reviews I'm ready to try the Valtera's and see how it goes. The Drainmasters have not worked well for us.

 

Thanks for your help. We're in Colorado, boat's winterized, almost no snow (snowboarding), moderate drought, dark times.

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madmike    24

contact NW boat sports... they are who did my valterra upgrade and know exactly what to order

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Friggy    12

try goggle Valtera # E40A-8, etrailer.com , looks like the valves you are looking for.

I have the identical boat and are seriously thinking about making the swap.

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N8 Froelich    12

try goggle Valtera # E40A-8, etrailer.com , looks like the valves you are looking for.

I have the identical boat and are seriously thinking about making the swap.

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N8 Froelich    12

Thanks for the part number. I may just order them up if the dealer can't help out.

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N8 Froelich    12

contact NW boat sports... they are who did my valterra upgrade and know exactly what to order

Did they happen to mention wiring changes that needed to be made? Did the leave in your factory switches?

 

I believe the drainmasters are two wires and these are three. I'm guessing the factory switching just reverses polarity to open and close the drain master and the Valtera probably works the same. Maybe the third wire signals when it's open because the valtera switch lights up when it's fully open.

 

Hmmmm

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NW Boat Sports    234

For Mike's you go from 3 wires to 2 and use the same wiring harness. Not sure about SV240 though. You might also have to use new rubber tubing..

 

I just did a 2015 S226 with drain masters, went from 4 wires to 3, all new wiring harness, switches, etc.

 

Drain masters brought their manufacturing back in house, they are supposed to be more rugged but who knows.. MB got so sick of them that they went to a manual system.

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Cdifranco    458

Changing to valterras and throwing the drainmasters in the trash was the second best thing I ever did to my Centurion.. the first was actually buying the boat

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N8 Froelich    12

For Mike's you go from 3 wires to 2 and use the same wiring harness. Not sure about SV240 though. You might also have to use new rubber tubing..

 

I just did a 2015 S226 with drain masters, went from 4 wires to 3, all new wiring harness, switches, etc.

 

Drain masters brought their manufacturing back in house, they are supposed to be more rugged but who knows.. MB got so sick of them that they went to a manual system.

 

When you say 3 wires to 2 I'm thinking that means 3 wires on the valve down to 2 wires on the boat harness. I think I might order the parts, connect it to 12V and monitor what happens with my multi-meter with switch open and switch closed with the 3 wires going to the valve. Hoping one of them is just hot when the valve is open for the little light on the Valtera switch. This wire would be terminated and the other two would be used for open/close. The question I'm wondering is what causes the circuit to open once the valve is full open or full close? Wondering if my current factory switchs work similar to a power window switch which has an internal breaker that sees the motor is stopped and the circuit opens. Hopefully the factory switch does this now for the Drainmaster? Anyway I'm just thinking out loud for anyone else that's done this or considering doing it.

 

Regarding the rubber tubing, I think based on the photo of the part it looks like the coupler has just about the same amount of shoulder as the Drainmaster's I have now which is encouraging.

 

Thanks again for sharing. I'd be grateful for a good dealer nearby!

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NW Boat Sports    234

This is the connection that Mike had in his boat. Do you have it?

 

https://www.msdperformance.com/products/accessories/connectors/parts/8183

 

If so, I've watched the guys at the factory. What they do is they take the stock Valterra with the 3 wire plug, cut it off and use the 2 wire Deutsch connector. Would be simple for you ...just have to figure out which 2 out of the 3 wires to use!

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N8 Froelich    12

This is the connection that Mike had in his boat. Do you have it?

 

https://www.msdperformance.com/products/accessories/connectors/parts/8183

 

If so, I've watched the guys at the factory. What they do is they take the stock Valterra with the 3 wire plug, cut it off and use the 2 wire Deutsch connector. Would be simple for you ...just have to figure out which 2 out of the 3 wires to use!

That's the one! Thanks for sharing the link to that connector part! I'd have never found that.

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DrNate    426

I have to knock on wood here, but I have replaced my Drainmasters about 6 times total but my latest ones were allegedly the newer versions and they have lasted me almost a year and a half now. I do lube them about every 3rd time out.

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N8 Froelich    12

I have to knock on wood here, but I have replaced my Drainmasters about 6 times total but my latest ones were allegedly the newer versions and they have lasted me almost a year and a half now. I do lube them about every 3rd time out.

 

Hmmm, and you have the same boat it looks like. It would be sooo much easier to stick with the Drainmasters. Between the wiring and the clearance requirements of the Valteras it's a project. I wasn't aware they updated them. I may have to look into that. One of my Drainmasters has actually worked for a couple seasons now with the occasional sticking here and there which was usually cured by turning with the allen, then it would work (still annoying to have to crawl back there and 10 people on the boat are like, watcha doin'). We are planning on leaving our boat in the lake most of the summer so servicing them is tricky. Thanks for the heads up.

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NW Boat Sports    234

They did switch and brought the manufacturing of the drainmasters back in house. Whoever they subbed it out to made unauthorized changes and thus, lots of failures...

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Bongo Fury    641

We replaced our Drainmasters at around 200 hours.....no issues with the replacements ......yet. Fingers crossed. We also leave them open when not in use and use silicone lube every now and then.

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DrNate    426

Little update to this old thread. Starboard Drainmaster failed yesterday. I am so sick of these things. Biting the bullet and switching to Valterra's. Is everyone still enjoying the Valterra upgrade? Any issues with them so far?

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Cdifranco    458

Little update to this old thread. Starboard Drainmaster failed yesterday. I am so sick of these things. Biting the bullet and switching to Valterra's. Is everyone still enjoying the Valterra upgrade? Any issues with them so far?

Love the Valterras. Do it

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DrNate    426

Love the Valterras. Do it

 

Thank you thank you thank you. I ordered the Valterra valves just now from etrailer.com. Part number e40a. They must have come down in price a bit, they were $179 a piece.

 

Am I correct that I will also need this?:

 

https://www.msdperformance.com/products/accessories/connectors/parts/8183

 

I ordered two of those also

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DrNate    426

So it looks like there are 3 wires going into that 3 prong harness. White, black, and green. Any idea which wire is not needed for the 2 prong harness that we have?

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Cdifranco    458

So it looks like there are 3 wires going into that 3 prong harness. White, black, and green. Any idea which wire is not needed for the 2 prong harness that we have?

Honestly dont remember. Put mine in 3 seasons ago and never looked at them again. I posted some pics on here a while ago I will try to search for them.

 

http://www.centurioncrew.com/index.php/topic/10021-help-quick-fill-gate-failure/page-2 If that helps at all.

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dejoeco    60

Little update to this old thread. Starboard Drainmaster failed yesterday. I am so sick of these things. Biting the bullet and switching to Valterra's. Is everyone still enjoying the Valterra upgrade? Any issues with them so far?

Two years on the Valterras and no issues ....... knock on wood!

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InfinitySurf    271

I actually have the Valterra's being shipped to me right now to replace both valves on front and both on rear...I have not had many issues with my drainmasters but went ahead and requested them cause of all the stuff I had heard (2014 SV244, so 1st year of Ramfill and I am in the lower serial #'s they posted with the recall). I was actually a little on the fence on whether I should even replace them right now since I haven't had problems. I thot I had heard that sometimes the Valterra can also stick...and part of the "fix" was also increasing voltage? (Lak3's comments in a thread about 12 valves going bad). Wonder if slight increase in voltage to valves is part of a software update now? I got a few other items being done in week or so by dealer under warranty.... You guys think I should switch to the Valterra even if the Drainmasters are not giving me issues?

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stoked    1,042

Switch to the valterras. If and when the drainmasters fail, it'll ruin the day.

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Lak3surf3r    713

I actually have the Valterra's being shipped to me right now to replace both valves on front and both on rear...I have not had many issues with my drainmasters but went ahead and requested them cause of all the stuff I had heard (2014 SV244, so 1st year of Ramfill and I am in the lower serial #'s they posted with the recall). I was actually a little on the fence on whether I should even replace them right now since I haven't had problems. I thot I had heard that sometimes the Valterra can also stick...and part of the "fix" was also increasing voltage? (Lak3's comments in a thread about 12 valves going bad). Wonder if slight increase in voltage to valves is part of a software update now? I got a few other items being done in week or so by dealer under warranty.... You guys think I should switch to the Valterra even if the Drainmasters are not giving me issues?

Mine was a lemon. literally.... They took it back. I had no problems with the gates in either of my Centurions (fx22 and Ri237) since that FS44. My drainmasters and valterras were bad on that boat and then stopped being an issue when the voltage got increased to the gates. Theres a thread about that somewhere on here as well.

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InfinitySurf    271

Sweet. I just got my 4 new Valterra's in the mail today and dealer is replacing them under warranty next week!

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