Ordering Valtera valves to replace Drainmaster

[N8 Froelich 12]

I've been trying to get my local dealer to look into this for me. They emailed Fineline and got an email back with an image of a 3/4" copper valve. They have no idea, I'll take the high road and leave it at that.

 

Does anyone have a dealer or manufacturer contact that they'd recommend and be willing to share? I'm hoping I can order, pay, and have em' shipped to me. Does anyone know the Valtera part #. We have an 2011 Enzo 240+.

 

After all the reading and mixed reviews I'm ready to try the Valtera's and see how it goes. The Drainmasters have not worked well for us.

 

Thanks for your help. We're in Colorado, boat's winterized, almost no snow (snowboarding), moderate drought, dark times.

[madmike 24]

contact NW boat sports... they are who did my valterra upgrade and know exactly what to order

[Friggy 12]

try goggle Valtera # E40A-8, etrailer.com , looks like the valves you are looking for.

I have the identical boat and are seriously thinking about making the swap.

[N8 Froelich 12]

try goggle Valtera # E40A-8, etrailer.com , looks like the valves you are looking for.

I have the identical boat and are seriously thinking about making the swap.

thank you Edited November 17, 2016 by N8 Froelich

[N8 Froelich 12]

Thanks for the part number. I may just order them up if the dealer can't help out.

[N8 Froelich 12]

contact NW boat sports... they are who did my valterra upgrade and know exactly what to order

Did they happen to mention wiring changes that needed to be made? Did the leave in your factory switches?

 

I believe the drainmasters are two wires and these are three. I'm guessing the factory switching just reverses polarity to open and close the drain master and the Valtera probably works the same. Maybe the third wire signals when it's open because the valtera switch lights up when it's fully open.

 

Hmmmm

[NW Boat Sports 232]

For Mike's you go from 3 wires to 2 and use the same wiring harness. Not sure about SV240 though. You might also have to use new rubber tubing..

 

I just did a 2015 S226 with drain masters, went from 4 wires to 3, all new wiring harness, switches, etc.

 

Drain masters brought their manufacturing back in house, they are supposed to be more rugged but who knows.. MB got so sick of them that they went to a manual system.

[Cdifranco 463]

Changing to valterras and throwing the drainmasters in the trash was the second best thing I ever did to my Centurion.. the first was actually buying the boat

[N8 Froelich 12]

For Mike's you go from 3 wires to 2 and use the same wiring harness. Not sure about SV240 though. You might also have to use new rubber tubing..

 

I just did a 2015 S226 with drain masters, went from 4 wires to 3, all new wiring harness, switches, etc.

 

Drain masters brought their manufacturing back in house, they are supposed to be more rugged but who knows.. MB got so sick of them that they went to a manual system.

 

When you say 3 wires to 2 I'm thinking that means 3 wires on the valve down to 2 wires on the boat harness. I think I might order the parts, connect it to 12V and monitor what happens with my multi-meter with switch open and switch closed with the 3 wires going to the valve. Hoping one of them is just hot when the valve is open for the little light on the Valtera switch. This wire would be terminated and the other two would be used for open/close. The question I'm wondering is what causes the circuit to open once the valve is full open or full close? Wondering if my current factory switchs work similar to a power window switch which has an internal breaker that sees the motor is stopped and the circuit opens. Hopefully the factory switch does this now for the Drainmaster? Anyway I'm just thinking out loud for anyone else that's done this or considering doing it.

 

Regarding the rubber tubing, I think based on the photo of the part it looks like the coupler has just about the same amount of shoulder as the Drainmaster's I have now which is encouraging.

 

Thanks again for sharing. I'd be grateful for a good dealer nearby!

[NW Boat Sports 232]

This is the connection that Mike had in his boat. Do you have it?

 

https://www.msdperformance.com/products/accessories/connectors/parts/8183

 

If so, I've watched the guys at the factory. What they do is they take the stock Valterra with the 3 wire plug, cut it off and use the 2 wire Deutsch connector. Would be simple for you ...just have to figure out which 2 out of the 3 wires to use!

Edited November 18, 2016 by NW Boat Sports

[N8 Froelich 12]

This is the connection that Mike had in his boat. Do you have it?

 

https://www.msdperformance.com/products/accessories/connectors/parts/8183

 

If so, I've watched the guys at the factory. What they do is they take the stock Valterra with the 3 wire plug, cut it off and use the 2 wire Deutsch connector. Would be simple for you ...just have to figure out which 2 out of the 3 wires to use!

That's the one! Thanks for sharing the link to that connector part! I'd have never found that.

[DrNate 426]

I have to knock on wood here, but I have replaced my Drainmasters about 6 times total but my latest ones were allegedly the newer versions and they have lasted me almost a year and a half now. I do lube them about every 3rd time out.

[N8 Froelich 12]

I have to knock on wood here, but I have replaced my Drainmasters about 6 times total but my latest ones were allegedly the newer versions and they have lasted me almost a year and a half now. I do lube them about every 3rd time out.

 

Hmmm, and you have the same boat it looks like. It would be sooo much easier to stick with the Drainmasters. Between the wiring and the clearance requirements of the Valteras it's a project. I wasn't aware they updated them. I may have to look into that. One of my Drainmasters has actually worked for a couple seasons now with the occasional sticking here and there which was usually cured by turning with the allen, then it would work (still annoying to have to crawl back there and 10 people on the boat are like, watcha doin'). We are planning on leaving our boat in the lake most of the summer so servicing them is tricky. Thanks for the heads up.

[NW Boat Sports 232]

They did switch and brought the manufacturing of the drainmasters back in house. Whoever they subbed it out to made unauthorized changes and thus, lots of failures...

[Bongo Fury 640]

We replaced our Drainmasters at around 200 hours.....no issues with the replacements ......yet. Fingers crossed. We also leave them open when not in use and use silicone lube every now and then.

[DrNate 426]

Little update to this old thread. Starboard Drainmaster failed yesterday. I am so sick of these things. Biting the bullet and switching to Valterra's. Is everyone still enjoying the Valterra upgrade? Any issues with them so far?

[Cdifranco 463]

Little update to this old thread. Starboard Drainmaster failed yesterday. I am so sick of these things. Biting the bullet and switching to Valterra's. Is everyone still enjoying the Valterra upgrade? Any issues with them so far?

Love the Valterras. Do it

[DrNate 426]

Love the Valterras. Do it

 

Thank you thank you thank you. I ordered the Valterra valves just now from etrailer.com. Part number e40a. They must have come down in price a bit, they were $179 a piece.

 

Am I correct that I will also need this?:

 

https://www.msdperformance.com/products/accessories/connectors/parts/8183

 

I ordered two of those also

[DrNate 426]

So it looks like there are 3 wires going into that 3 prong harness. White, black, and green. Any idea which wire is not needed for the 2 prong harness that we have?

[Cdifranco 463]

So it looks like there are 3 wires going into that 3 prong harness. White, black, and green. Any idea which wire is not needed for the 2 prong harness that we have?

Honestly dont remember. Put mine in 3 seasons ago and never looked at them again. I posted some pics on here a while ago I will try to search for them.

 

http://www.centurioncrew.com/index.php/topic/10021-help-quick-fill-gate-failure/page-2 If that helps at all.

Edited April 7, 2017 by Cdifranco