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The Official Tru-Trac [I, II, III] & Falcon Thread

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Timr71    8

We talked about this in the "Older Centurion" thread.  

Do you have a Tru-Trac or a Falcon?  If yes, post a pic or multiple pics of it here.  Have a good work around or modification, post it here.  Questions?  Post them here.

I have some old brochures, I'll post them up this evening.

Here's a pic of my 1993 open bow Falcon.  

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h20king    779

post-777-0-99319500-1422585808_thumb.jpgpost-777-0-92593800-1422585691_thumb.jpgpics of our 84 tru trac from back in the day

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quick question for the falcon thread what size packing for the stuffing box for the drive shaft   93 falcon open bow with 351 dd

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Timr71    8

It should be a 1 inch shaft for diameter and I believe that goes with 1/4" stuffing.  I just bought some about a year ago.  I think I have some left, but I'm pretty sure it's not labeled.  I just called a local dealer (Supra) and told the parts guy I needed stuffing for a 1 inch shaft and he said, I have what you need.  I went there and picked it up.  

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cool i am going to measure the distance from the shaft to the nut (hahahah) and pick up some gtu at west marine

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here is another question for the guys with older boats what kind of oil are you running in your 351w engines i run valvoline vr-1 20w 50 but was thinking of switching to royal purple HMX– HIGH MILEAGE SYNTHETIC MOTOR OIL

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86SKI    12

Here is my 1986 Tru-Trac 

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Jlagos    10

Great boat. Welcome to the site.

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JimboIA    0

Im not sure I belong in this thread.  I just go a '95 Heritage.  I can't find much about it but I am assuming it is in the Falcon/ Tru-Trac family.  Anyone else on here have one of these?

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86SKI    12

Nice boat JimbolA. You have a Falcon. I believe that the "heritage" designation regards to the paint scheme/logo as compared to the regular Falcon (first picture in this thread). 

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JimboIA    0

H20King I see you have a surfboard in the rack in your picture.  Were you able to get any kind of wave to surf?  I haven't even tried yet but It seems like it might not be doable. 

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Timr71    8

The Heritage is a trim package that was available in 1995. The hull is a Falcon variation that matched the Falcon Sport from that same year.  There was also a LaPoint, that was done in conjunction with pro skier Bob LaPoint.  

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86SKI    12
2 minutes ago, Timr71 said:

The Heritage is a trim package that was available in 1995. The hull is a Falcon variation that matched the Falcon Sport from that same year.  There was also a LaPoint, that was done in conjunction with pro skier Bob LaPoint.  

Thank you for clarifying!

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Timr71    8

there was a very clean looking 1995 Heritage for sale last summer in Georgia.  Price was 10K and it had been repowered with a 5.7 Merc that only had 10hrs on it.  Looked like a new boat and had a practically brand new engine in it.  

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86SKI    12
36 minutes ago, Timr71 said:

If anyone is needing original graphics made, you can find them here:  http://www.vinylapproach.com/replacementboatlogos.htm

I actually contacted them recently about making replacement graphics made for my 86. Just a heads up, if they do not have a template of the graphics you need, they need pictures with dimensions.

They also stated:

"Usually we have you make a pencil rubbing of each on Xmas/Gift wrapping paper taped color side down over and roll them up and mail them to us…Then we scan them and make sure size/spacing is correct to align to gelcoat “ghosted” images of where originals were…"

Also:

"Only issue is we are backed up this time of year on such a job so it would be upwards of a month before we could have them ready to produce…" This was about a month ago. 

Pretty good customer service, will try to post pictures when I eventually get mine made and put on the boat.

 

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Timr71    8

That is good to know.  I had my registration numbers made there and they turned out great.  Good customer service and pretty quick turn around.  

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86SKI    12

So, I replaced the helm and steering cable assembly on my TruTrac this weekend. I thought I would share my experience for anybody who wants to do something similar in the future. I am posting the majority of this as text here, but I also have a photo album with some pictures and essentially the same writeup, since this site has such a small limit on attachment size, which can be accessed via this link: PICTURES!

Some background info on the steering system on my 1986 TruTrac to get started since I couldn't find similar information anywhere on this forum or elsewhere on the internet. 

Old Helm: Teleflelex (now SeaStar) Big-T Helm Model #TEL-SH5000 

Old Cable: Teleflex SSC7217 Cable (SSC72xx is the base part number and 17 is the length of the cable in feet)

New Helm and Cable: Rotech Uflex System, Item #2417 on SKIDIM.COM

While I did not take many pictures during the removal and installation process, there are some things worth mentioning. First, since it was supposed to rain all weekend up here in Michigan, I decided to try to get the boat into the garage for the first time. I'm surprised I got it to fit on the first try!

To get a general idea of how to replace the steering cable in your boat, refer to THIS VIDEO by Ron Tanis of skiboatpartsonline.com. Something to keep in mind while watching this video. The complete engine and transmission assembly is removed, which made a pretty significant difference to in my boat. This is because the steering cable in my boat was routed directly under the rear port side engine/transmission mount. This meant that when I was pulling the old cable out of the boat, the nut that secures the old style teleflex cable to the helm could not fit between the hull and the engine mount. This prevented me from pulling the cable out of the boat and I ended up having to cut the old cable in half with a Sawzall and pull the rest of the cable out from the engine compartment.

Thankfully, the new helm and cable install went very smoothly. I ended up routing the new steering cable around the rear port engine mount which didn't make any significant difference and the cable pulled through the boat smoothly. 

One thing to keep in mind if you decide to switch from the old Big-T Teleflex helm and cable to the Uflex helm and cable... The Uflex helm quite a bit shorter than the Big-T helm. This will mean that the steering wheel will sit closer to the dash and in my case it obstructed the view of my Tachometer, but that doesn't bother me much. What does bother me a bit is the fact that the Uflex helm bezel does not cover the holes left by the old Big-T helm bezel, as you can see in the pictures in the linked album.

While I was at it, I decided to overhaul my clamp block assembly since it was essentially bone dry and suffering from some pretty bad oxidation. I disassembled the clamp and mount, hit it with the bench grinder and wire wheel, painted with some rustoleum rust stop (Ford Gloss Grey), lubed it up with some heavy grease, and I think it came out looking pretty good. 

Again, I recommend looking through the photo album linked here: https://imgur.com/a/6BHhKQF as it makes a lot more sense when you can actually see what I'm talking about.

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86SKI    12

 

21 hours ago, 86SKI said:

So, I replaced the helm and steering cable assembly on my TruTrac this weekend. I thought I would share my experience for anybody who wants to do something similar in the future. I am posting the majority of this as text here, but I also have a photo album with some pictures and essentially the same writeup, since this site has such a small limit on attachment size, which can be accessed via this link: PICTURES!

Some background info on the steering system on my 1986 TruTrac to get started since I couldn't find similar information anywhere on this forum or elsewhere on the internet. 

Old Helm: Teleflelex (now SeaStar) Big-T Helm Model #TEL-SH5000 

Old Cable: Teleflex SSC7217 Cable (SSC72xx is the base part number and 17 is the length of the cable in feet)

New Helm and Cable: Rotech Uflex System, Item #2417 on SKIDIM.COM

While I did not take many pictures during the removal and installation process, there are some things worth mentioning. First, since it was supposed to rain all weekend up here in Michigan, I decided to try to get the boat into the garage for the first time. I'm surprised I got it to fit on the first try!

To get a general idea of how to replace the steering cable in your boat, refer to THIS VIDEO by Ron Tanis of skiboatpartsonline.com. Something to keep in mind while watching this video. The complete engine and transmission assembly is removed, which made a pretty significant difference to in my boat. This is because the steering cable in my boat was routed directly under the rear port side engine/transmission mount. This meant that when I was pulling the old cable out of the boat, the nut that secures the old style teleflex cable to the helm could not fit between the hull and the engine mount. This prevented me from pulling the cable out of the boat and I ended up having to cut the old cable in half with a Sawzall and pull the rest of the cable out from the engine compartment.

Thankfully, the new helm and cable install went very smoothly. I ended up routing the new steering cable around the rear port engine mount which didn't make any significant difference and the cable pulled through the boat smoothly. 

One thing to keep in mind if you decide to switch from the old Big-T Teleflex helm and cable to the Uflex helm and cable... The Uflex helm quite a bit shorter than the Big-T helm. This will mean that the steering wheel will sit closer to the dash and in my case it obstructed the view of my Tachometer, but that doesn't bother me much. What does bother me a bit is the fact that the Uflex helm bezel does not cover the holes left by the old Big-T helm bezel, as you can see in the pictures in the linked album.

While I was at it, I decided to overhaul my clamp block assembly since it was essentially bone dry and suffering from some pretty bad oxidation. I disassembled the clamp and mount, hit it with the bench grinder and wire wheel, painted with some rustoleum rust stop (Ford Gloss Grey), lubed it up with some heavy grease, and I think it came out looking pretty good. 

Again, I recommend looking through the photo album linked here: https://imgur.com/a/6BHhKQF as it makes a lot more sense when you can actually see what I'm talking about.

IMPORTANT NOTE: Please see the post I just made about an important lesson I learned yesterday about helm replacement in the Maintenance, Performance, and Troubleshooting thread HERE

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Timr71    8

86Ski - a couple of questions: 1 - I looked at your pictures, seems like you could make a black circular veneer to cover the old holes?  2 - what lake(s) do you go to in Michigan?  I grew up there, twice, in the West Bloomfield area and I was surrounded by lakes including Orchard Lake, Long Lake, Walnut Lake, and Cass Lake.  

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Timr71    8
On 4/26/2018 at 0:26 PM, jago bay baby said:

here is another question for the guys with older boats what kind of oil are you running in your 351w engines i run valvoline vr-1 20w 50 but was thinking of switching to royal purple HMX– HIGH MILEAGE SYNTHETIC MOTOR OIL

I think I just used Castrol 20w50 last time.  I change it at the end of every season.  

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86SKI    12
36 minutes ago, Timr71 said:

86Ski - a couple of questions: 1 - I looked at your pictures, seems like you could make a black circular veneer to cover the old holes?  2 - what lake(s) do you go to in Michigan?  I grew up there, twice, in the West Bloomfield area and I was surrounded by lakes including Orchard Lake, Long Lake, Walnut Lake, and Cass Lake.  

Timr71- 1). I was thinking the same thing. Also, I'm sure I could just find a larger diameter bezel that will cover the old holes. It's not super pertinent, purely aesthetic lol.

2). I grew up going to the west coast (St. Jo, Benton Harbor area) of MI with my family every summer with the, now mine, 86. I just moved to MI about 2 years ago and live in Howell now. I've been on Belleville, Chemung, and I live very very close to Thompson which is where I've been going the most lately. I'm a bit west of where you were in West Bloomfield but am planning to meet up with a few other Centurion owners on White Lake.

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Timr71    8

White lake meetup sounds like fun.  Take lots of pics and post some...especially if there's some other classics like yours there.  

A couple of links for you guys.  This guy, Austin is his name, is doing a full stringer up restore of a 1987 Ski Centurion. I'll send him a PM and see if we can get him to join us over here too.  

1987 Ski Centurion Restoration

Here's my restore thread: 

1993 Ski Centurion Restoration

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