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David head    4

Turned right going 11 full ballast low fuel alarm went off and engine sputtered out and died I had 50 gallons of fuel not sure what happened or how to prevent

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volzalum    262

First, a Nit ... 2014 was the FX44. 2015 and 2016 was the FS44.

 

As for your issue, it sounds to me like you have water in your gas and when loaded and turning, the intake pulled only water and killed the boat. I would either try the full additives or completely drain your tank and make sure you get all of the water out before refilling.

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David head    4

I’ll try fuel additives 

 

the boat is on the lake 

 

With fifty gallons of bad gas In it

 

what additives do you like best

 

ill try to run it till empty without making any corners

 

thank you for the help

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volzalum    262

Also, note if you get all of the gas and liquid siphoned out, you can let it sit for a few hours and then siphon the water off the bottom. I used 2 30 gallon trash cans the last time I had issues with my gas. 

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David head    4

How did you siphone

 

can you get to the bottom of tank threw gas cap

 

or somewhere else 

 

I’m going to put on new fuel separator filter 

 

just don’t want gas getting everywhere 

 

I’d like to make the fix with the boat on the water 

 

since I’m already on the lake

 

but sucking out all gas and changing filter

 

then fill with premium non ethanol gas 

 

is my first try

 

 Then deal with my two codes 

 

if all that fails I’ll pull the boat and take it in for service 

 

id like to learn to do the work my self but some things are easier then others 

 

do I’ll try to stick with the easy stuff lol

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David head    4

The two code have to do with the cam shaft sensor 

 

maybe they will go away with new gas and not trying to burn water

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InfinitySurf    299

You could easily siphon the gas if you remove the floor panel (has maybe 8 phillips head screws holding it down). Then remove the 5) 5/16" screws for the fuel sender for easy access to siphon.

I think you have a much better chance of resolving the issue by removing it all, compared to using additives. Plus you guarantee the bad gas is out that way compared to taking a chance of this happening again.

I agree, you should replace you spin on fuel/water separator filter and you should also replace your FCC fuel filter (both collect water) and if you had water make it too the engine then you have a lot in there. If you gas has ethenol and it has gone thru phase separation, no amount of additives will make that gas ok and you risk damage to your engine running it not to mention all the down time and mechanic costs. IMHO, Cheaper to just take the time to do it right now and siphon all the gas

 

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volzalum    262

And by getting the water off the bottom, I meant after it is in a trash can you can get it off the bottom of the trash can, not the bottom of the tank. I recommend getting the tank as dry as you can get it. And on reuse of the gas in the trash can, I ran mine through my truck after getting the water off of the bottom. You can get a fuel safe pump to move the fuel from the tank to the cans, or you may be able to get a siphon to work. You will have to remove the floor panel and then the fill hose from either side of the tank. Then the fuel will be accessible (like Infinity said). 

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David head    4

Sucked 70 gallons of gas today

tomorrow I’m putting in 30 gallons of premium non ethanol 

replacing inline fuel filter 

draining fuel canister with the bottom plug 
 

then give it a run

 

any tricks with draining fuel canister?
 

 

looks tight  
 

 Utube video shows him replace the filter 

which seems a little tricky er

 

thanks again for the help

 

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volzalum    262
Posted (edited)

You may need to replace the filter inside the canister too if it hasn’t been done recently. I change mine yearly. Loosen the clamp, pop it down, then you can get the filter out. 

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David head    4

New gas

new filter 

drained can

could not get can all the way off
 

big black hose in the way of dropping down far enough so I just sucked out the gas in can and put back together 

 

fired right up and ran with no codes 

 

so thank you for your help

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InfinitySurf    299

I never remove my canister all the way to replace the FCC paper filter inside, what you can do tho while its mounted is remove the 7/16" bolt in the bottom of the can and drain everything that way. Then I drop it just enough to replace the FCC filter and then re-install.

Glad you got it figured out and running well!!

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David head    4

I’ll try that

 

next time.  Lol

 

thanks again

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David head    4

Well I almost got it running 

starts good.   Idles.  sounds and feels great

go out for a run

get it up to 3000 rpm

bows a little high

tank has 30 gallons of gas

and the engine kills itself just like when u stop motor 

I look down and it’s red Dash alert fuel on empty 
 

my dealer says it could be loose wire on gauge or loose wire on sender or bad gauge or bad sender

 

 

any idea what my next move is?

 

im thinking fill the tank

and hose clamp the float on the sender all the way at the top   Lol

 


 

 

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volzalum    262

I don’t think the fuel gauge has anything to do with the engine quitting. It will run until it’s not getting anymore fuel. Make sure the fuel pickup is working and not clogged. Also check your fuel rail pressure. You’ll need a gauge to do that, can probably rent from an auto parts store. It sounds like you are getting starved for fuel at RPMs above 3k.

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David head    4
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“Make sure the fuel pickup is working and not clogged “

 

how might I go about this?

 

remove floor    Look  listen  feel    Lol

 

Talked with a guy. Told him that it was a 2016 with 72 hours.    How long was it sitting. ? 
Drain the 92 gas.  Add two bottles of startron 

then fill with 87 gas

 

run low   Put around. Possibly cleaning injectors
 

I’ll check fuel rail with gauge

 

so I’ll do all the above

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volzalum    262

To check the fuel pickup, you would have to remove the floor and then remove the area that area that the hoses connect to in the fuel tank. That might just be a wild goose chase though. 

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David head    4

I’m cool with it

 

im learning as I’m trying to fix it

 

last case.    I drag it up to lynwood.   
 

with my tail between my legs

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Jlagos    22

Does the same happen when in neutral? Can you rev above 3000 rpms and keep it there for a moment? Rember that in neutral the engine does not demand the same fuel flow as when overload but at least you can tell if the engine can sustain a high rpm. Like volzalum said check the fuel pressure and also check the connections in the fuel pump and sending units. I would try to see and run with the fuel cap off/open. Is a vacuum developing and therefore stalling the engine. Does the engine start immediately after stalling? 

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David head    4

Yes the engine starts right back up

 

thank god

thats how I Limo home to the dock to fight another day
 

I’ll run at 3 g.  To c

i like the vacuum idea 

 

I’ll do it

 

and fuel pressure.   Probably tomorrow 

 

thank you for your help

it takes a village 

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Jlagos    22

Did you figure this out?

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David head    4

Yep

 

new gas

new filters 

sea foam

 

the gas is the problem. Lots of crap gas out there.  Water in it.  And it draws water from a he air

 

non ethanol for me

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