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I had a pretty sweet September. Got invited to worlds. Took first place at worlds. (Landed my first heelside air reverse at worlds) I've tried it probably 100 times before that. So that was sweet. Ended up first in points in the CWSA rankings by a hair. It all began seven years ago with Centurioncrew.com Just a handful of dudes giving me pointers before I ever tried to get up on a wakesurf board. I know I haven't spent a lot of time on here lately, but I'm forever thankful for this forum and its members. Keep the stoke alive.

No August or September Pic and Video thread...? Shame on you guys! I just whipped together an edit from my ride last week and wanted to share it with y'all! I know I've been away from here for quite some time, but I still love the Crew! Hope everyone had a great summer!

And the winner is....

H's new Fi...... Good looking boat Herald!

Just giving a shout out to Enovation Controls! Towards the end of the season my display went belly up. Got pricing on a new one and you would think it was an engine. So I reached out to EnovationControls who made the display. They said send it to us and we will take a look. Repaired it, replaced the rubber overlay, and provided me all the software files. Great group of people. They bent over backwards and didn’t charge me a dime or as they said when I asked “ you owe us exactly zero dollars and zero cents, thank you for sending it to us” so before you fork over cash to replace, give them a shout! Saved me a few thousand dollars!

Good to see you enjoying your new ride Nick! A quick edit from last week. Working on holding my revert/switch riding longer. Hard to keep the fins from grabbing and forcing you to spin around. But I'm getting it. Had to don a shorty. Water temps at 65-68.

Likely my last ride of the season, but I managed to finally ride out a 360! Started a video with progression, when I was getting close, but not riding out...

Calling all Fi23 owners! With it being such a new boat, how about we get a discussion going to share all mods, tips & tricks related to the Fi23. Here’s some of our fun mods so far to get things started. Cheers!

Post up pictures of your finished boat garage!I built my 24ft boat a new detached garage when I built my new home recently. I fully insulated and installed a wall unit so I could heat/cool the space. Its done a great job, only thing I did not realize when I bought it was that the lowest heat setting is 61 degrees and there are times when it would be nice to set it too 50 degrees. But its been very efficient since I was careful to insulate well and use a LOT of spray foam and I cannot complain. Moved in Sept 2018....and FINALLY just got the garage set up like I had been planning, just need to properly organize all my tools and boat stuff now. When I designed the garage, I wanted to be able to maximize the space since the boat is roughly 27ft long on the trailer with the tongue folded and swim platform on (I use it to get into boat) and about 9.5ft wide from fender to fender on width. The garage is 32ft long X 16ft wide with 12x12 garage door (ceiling of garage is 13' tall). Since it has 2x6 walls, inside comes to basically 31ft long X 15ft wide.I wanted to be able to bring the boat home from a day on the lake, and from inside the boat, remove everything if I wanted to without having to climb in/out of the boat. Same for loading up, so I can choose what surf boards, kids toys, etc.....that we want on the lake that day without getting out. I usually remove the seats to make sure the boat dries out and I never get any mildew or wet smell....so I built 3 wood racks on the side for the seat, and 2) 4x8 metal racks that hang down from the ceiling 42". This allows me to reach all the main things for the boat by either standing on the gunnels (I installed decking on gunnels for grip), or standing on the rear walk-thru transom. Then I also added as many metal shelving units at rear that I could (have 3 installed so far) those are for tools, boat supplies, oil change equip and all the other fun stuff....and am putting a "Gladiator" wall system up to hang things like rakes, shovels and other misc. On left wall, I still have 8 of those to install which will finish filling up that wall.I got this all done while boat was at the shop over the last 2 weeks...brought her home last night and backed her in for the first time and am pretty happy with how things turned out, everything fits perfectly, tho just barely in some areas. I planned to epoxy the garage floor in the Spring and think that I will put down something (maybe a colored line in the paint), so when I back in, I know to keep my tire on the line since I only have roughly 6" on each side of wiggle room to keep boat where I want it so I still have access to walk down either side of the boat since there will still be some things on the floor. I need to install some kind of "tire stop" as well so I can keep the depth correct.

Last week at the lake, so much fun and the wetsounds cooler bumps for hours on a single charge.

Took the new to me 244 out this weekend and had an amazing time! Chowder2016 brought down his friends and 257 so we kinda demolished a cove for anyone else lol.

What I love about boat show season is checking out all of the manufactures latest and greatest ideas and features.....MasterCraft did something cool this year on the new Xstar. They installed rub rail mounted docking lights.....not sure if this is new in the industry, but it is the first time I’ve seen it. I had to have this upgrade so here we go!

We put together a series of videos on how to best optimize the surf wave on your Centurion boat. The videos are broken down into Wakesurfing 101, 201 and 301. Here are some details on each video: Setting Up Your Wakesurf Wave 101 – This video is for when you are first getting started and goes through the basics of how to create a great surf wave that anyone will be able to jump on and enjoy. Setting Up Your Wakesurf Wave 201 – Once you have the basics down this video will help you take it to the next level. In the 201 video we show you how you can use all of the features on your Centurion boat to customize the surf wave based on the rider size, rider skill level, board they are riding on and more. If you are ready to take your wave from great to amazing this video will help you do that. Setting Up Your Wakesurf Wave 301 – In this video we go the extra step to show you how the professional riders and drivers set their boats up. This gets to a level of customization and intensity that is more than a lot of people want to get into but if you want to see how we set things up for pro riders, check this one out! We hope these videos will be helpful and that you can use them to get the most out of your boat. Happy Surfing!

What’s up everyone, so it’s been quite a while since I first got my boat and started this old thread but I thought I would just give a little update. Ended up getting the Aviator tower and went a little crazy with the stereo among many many other projects on it haha. I will say that I am very appreciative of this site as there has been a ton of content that I researched and read through that really helped me out along the way!

Decided to upgrade the sub/enclosure in my Ri237 to a ported system with WS REVO 12HP, what a difference! No longer does it sound like a speaker slapping in a panel. Note the vertical port to the left of the woofer. Before After Combined with the six 8" in-boat speakers and four REV10s on the tower (powered by a WS SYN-DX6 and SYN DX2.3HP), it sounds great!

Went in to take my SV233 to Overby's for service and ended up coming back with this 2015 FS 44! Think we got the wave dialed in . Goofy side has same lip just hard to see with the sun hitting it. Having surfed a 2014 SV233, 2016 SV244, 2013 G23, 2016 RI237, Ri257, Supreme S21, 2001 Elite and Eclipse V-drive, Axis T22 / 23, I have to say the SV244 and the FS44 are by far my favorite waves. The Ri257 I surfed is a close second only because we did not get a lot of time to dial in the wave and did not have any extra ballast on the boat. Total two people in boat and 400 lbs of lead. The 2nd person was sitting next to the captain seat on the storage compartment. Think I am going to add 100-200 lbs of lead there or have someone always sit there as with the weight there it really helped the wave. Regular / Port side Speed 11.2 Port RamFill 100% Bow 100% Starboard was 35% Trim 25 CATS 10 Notes: Insane push all the way back. Playing with the CATS seemed to push the lip out a little bit. I am sure with more people in the boat I'll run less counter weight or when i get another 400 lbs of lead. Goofy / Starboard Speed 11.0 ( I skim buddy surfs) Starboard RamFill 100% Bow 100% Port RamFill 30% Trim 35 Cats -20 Notes: The length and height is insane, on my 53 P5 Matrix I was able to pump back in with little effort from white wash / curl. I would rate my 2014 SV233 (had RamFill and CATS with 750s in each locker) goofy wave a 8/10 with this one almost being a 10. I am sure I can dial it in a little more with some lead and playing around with the Trim / CATS. It is hard to see in the picture due to the sun / angle of this photo but the lip and curl is almost identical to the regular side. SO Impressed with the FS44 wave.

It’s here

Penicillin? lol

Finally got a board on the racks. There was a little wiggle during a vigorous shake that I was not sure about. I need to water test soon.

Thanks for all the discussion guys. We placed an order yesterday for a FI23. Sounds like it should be delivered early April.

Whoop whoop. Yes I pulled the trigger. Joined the forum. And drooled all night thinking about my new boat. You know the monkey said when he got his tail chopped off? It won’t be long now. Whoop whoop

Let me see what I actually have when the boat arrives and I'll let ya know. As far as the pm thing I think it's because I'm not a supporting member. The sight and members have changed through the year's. I only hang around because of some of the guy's like you and Nick,Rhunt drNate ect. that go back through the year's.

No wonder... lol potato picture; n: a very poor quality picture. the implication is that the quality is so bad, that the photo was not taken with a camera at all, but with a potato.

Brought the Fi home today. We did purchase it from Pat and his crew at Northwest Boat Sports in Oregon City. Very attentive hard working team. They are all ready to step up to help their customers. Ian took us for a demo to show how to set it up for wakesurfing awesomeness. Brian was great helping with the details. It has been a pleasure to do business with them. Looks like we might have light wind tomorrow so hopefully will get on the water. Picked up a new Soulcraft with the boat so ready to step up our game. All the best, Hein & Kim

We are bringing our Fi25 home on Tuesday. I'll be happy to answer questions as we get to know it. All the best, Hein

Been wanting to build some wall racks for my surf boards for about a year, and now that I have a dedicated boat garage I finally got around to making them. Designed it to hold 5 boards. I put together the surf board supports 2 separate nights (top 3 the first night and bottom 2 the second night). It evolved a bit the 2nd night and I am going to revise the top ones to match the bottom sets since it looks a lot cleaner and the racks did not need to be so long. First few I did at 30" long, mostly cause I bough 60" pieces of 1" PVC and just cut them in half, I did the others @ 24" and also did end differently and they turned out a lot better. Pretty simple design, used 2x4 as the base and drilled 3/4" holes into it and used a 45 degree PVC angle fitting on the 1" PVC pipe and then glued/screwed them into 2x4 to hold them in place securely. PVC is then covered in foam pipe insulation and I also put some strips of adhesive foam insulation over the face of the 2x4's to protect the boards since they rest against it due to how I did the angle. I have 13ft ceiling in the boat garage, and placed the wall rack high enough so after I back the boat into garage after surfing, I can just put the boards back into the racks from inside of the boat without having to climb in/out with them. Anyway, figured I would share the pics, I know I like looking at pics when others post DIY stuff, I have gotten a lot of ideas from seeing stuff like that. Just broke out the wet suits, supposed to be in the 20's next week, usually we ride till Thanksgiving just been raining a lot lately in this area making it kindof dreary.

My last two fill ups were 5.18 and 5.33 GPH on our fi23 with 409 and 3145 prop. The 5.18 was mostly surfing, 11 hours on the clock and 57 gallons. The second had 2-3 hours of cruising 4-5k rpm the rest surfing and slow speed zup (for my 4 year old) 9 hours on the clock and 48 gallons of fuel. Hours aren't exact but they are close. Im at 5k ft elevation ballast is 75-100% full when surfing + 500 lbs of steel

Shop just sent me pics last night since they finished install yesterday....I pick her up on way home from the beach tomorrow! Should have the Aqua Marine decking in about 2 weeks, once I have it all put together 100%, will post final pictures

Got her hew home ready too!!!

The first thing I did when I got my boat home was taking off the faded, out dated tribal decals. I loved the simple look of it without any decals but I was back and forth on what I wanted to do, or If I was going to do anything at all. I finally ordered a pair of Centurian decals from Great Lakes Skipper, and couldn't be happier! I would have done pulled the trigger earlier if I knew how good it was going to look. I hope this post helps someone in the same situation.

https://youtu.be/-0_nVxsuXTE Amazing day in Virginia today!

This was on Sunday, 3 people in boat + 1000lbs of lead surfing at just over 3K RPM's. On my XR7 my guess would be that it uses slightly less fuel than the H6 since its not working as hard. Either way sub 10 GPH is amazing. I definitely blow through most of my fuel cruising from spot on the delta to another 45 minutes of cruising each way is pretty common for us.

Thanks all! I got my boat and am excited for the new season to come! Ended on a clean 06 Centurion Avalanche with only 115 hours on it (and not just motor) and with the pass through I was hoping for!

We went back and forth but in the end decided the fi23 best fits our needs. Boat sprays in December so we expect delivery in January

I apologize for the crappy cell phone video, my wife refuses to turn her phone sideways no matter how many times I ask. But I wanted to show you guys the fun we've been having on the longboard

All 100% speculation at this point on FI, but the RI appear to be holding thier own in resale. Actually significantly better than my 24 MXZ's did. I suspect the FI23 is going to hold its value insanely well. Just due to performance and price point. I fully expect it to take some 23LSV share. IMHO that is why 23LSV has done so well, it performs well, at a perfect price. Its not the Axis/Supreme/MB price but far from X23/G23/Ri237. Centurion has only one issue, getting people to demo them, there is no better boat right now. But people are scared to try them, because there are not that many of them. Once you get out there, and people see yours, others will follow.

Starting to see some progress on my Fi23 from the factory!

I've already plastered this all over the internet but I can't help but share: I haven't seen too many 12 year olds landing 360's! Proud Poppa here

This weekend at Bullards Bar, conditions were perfect all weekend.

Quick followup.. I went with the Ri257 (with the LSX) -- in all honesty because the Ri is more of a known quantity for me. I've spent 30+ hours on two different Ri257s, and I love the boat. It also became obvious from BoardCo answers that having the same hull means the boats are so similar it comes down to preferences. I was able to finally see an Fi23 in person, and overall I like the calmer RI styling and slightly higher freeboard for big Lake Tahoe, so that's the way I went. We took delivery two days ago.. and we couldn't be happier. Picture below. @BoardCo - Thanks so much for all your help answering questions on here, and posting awesome youtube videos of Centurions on the water! They really made a large purchase decision much easier. Your answer above helped me shed the FOMO of not having the Fi ski-pylon. @Duneit - We bought from https://www.mellomarine.com/ in Folsom, CA. Sally and Brandy have been fantastic to work with. Sally (the owner) negotiated the COVID-modified Tahoe boat inspection restrictions for us to get it in the water asap, and has been great.

Sad this forum is not as busy as it used to be since so many jumped to the Facebook groups .. the FB groups are not nearly as easy to search, and the threads do not get organized well ...

A few things here: The Fi25 and Ri257 ride almost identically in rough water - you will be VERY happy with either one. The Ri257 has a tow point above the swim platform that is ideal for tubes. You can ski from this point but from my experience, the tower is a better spot. As far as this goes, it is one of the common misconceptions I run into when talking to people about skiing. People consider it near blasphemy to talk about water skiing from the tower, but for 90% of people who ski it is actually a better tow point than a pylon. It allows recreational skiers to get up easier and reduces overall drag once they are up. The benefit of having a lower tow point really only matters if you are pulling HARD through the wake and honestly if you are pulling hard enough to justify going to a pylon you aren't going to want to ski behind a Fi25 / Ri257 anyway. To give you some background I am a tournament skier, I own a Carbon Pro boat (along with a Ri257) and spend time in a buoy course regularly. When I ski behind a Fi25 or Ri257 I am barely impacted by skiing from the tower. This point causes me some frustration because for most people skiing from the tower is not just ok, but it is actually BETTER than skiing from a pylon, but when I suggest it I get weird looks like I don't know what I'm doing haha. Jack (one of our guys here) gets the same reactions and he can run into 34 off in a course (which if you aren't familiar is REALLY good). The Ri257 ski wake isn't quite as good as the Fi25, but they are close. Out of the box the Ri257 puts out a slightly better surf wave while the Fi25 has a slightly better ski wake. They have the same running surface and the only reason for the difference is the Ri257 is slightly heavier. That said, most people wouldn't be able to tell a difference between them as far as ski wake goes. As far as stereo control goes, you can have an automatic volume adjustment installed but you can save a lot of cost and actually get better functionality by installing an app on your phone called Volumatic. It is AWESOME and a lot better than the volume controls that are set to RPM in my opinion, plus it only sets you back about $10. The Supra SE550 has some great features and is a really nice boat. There are some nice features on Supra but for me there are at least 2 BIG things you will miss out on vs. a Centurion. The most important factor that can't be overcome with modifications is the rough water ride. If you are using the boat on Tahoe the water can get ugly fast and having a boat that won't beat you up or scare you going through 5-foot waves is a must in my book. The next one is the surf wave on the Centurion is a lot better out of the box. You can get the Supra to throw out a great wave, but if you do much research you will find that pretty much everyone is running 1,000 lbs. of lead to get it to surf on the level of a stock Fi25/Ri257. If you cruise around a lot that is a problem since you can't get rid of it. The other downside that is just speculation from me is that the ski wake on the Supra wouldn't be as good. Supra boats have a very stiff wakeboard wake and from my experience, that translates to a stiff ski wake. I haven't skied behind one, but I have heard the ski wake is actually worse than a Centurion just because of the wake shape. The best thing to do if you are looking at one is taking them both for a drive, the difference will become clear very quickly. Lastly, the H6 engine will work fine for you but you probably wouldn't be disappointed with the 550 (for 2020 it will be the new LSX engine). If you cruise around a bit the added power and reduced RPM on at cruising speed is really nice. As far as reliability goes, its a bit early to tell on the LSX but thus far they have had no problems at all and should be more reliable than the XR7 (550 Supercharger) was. The main benefit is similar power but the engine is naturally aspirated so longevity and reliability should be better. It's a new engine for the boat world but it has been bulletproof in cars for a while so we anticipate really good things. If there is anything we can do to help you out on the boat decision process at all let me know. Thanks!

More pics?

Machined a pair of these out of aluminum to cover the upper fixed board rack mount holes on my Enzo SS210, then moved them to my Ri237. Thoughts?

As soon as I can get on the water I'll post up in use pics.

Just popped a bag of popcorn, this might get interesting.

Big thank you to Joe Overby at Overby Marine at Lake Gaston NC. He let me go out and shred this beast of a boat! I am very impressed with this boat, it is definitely a huge step up from the 237, IMO. The larger prop means this boat surfs at like 3,000 rpms. Was super quiet as well. Also, the boat handles extremely well, does not seem near as big in the water as it is on the trailer! This boat really surprised me! Short edit of me surfing ---still can't figured out to embed the video.... https://youtu.be/Md5ivsG5cc0 <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Md5ivsG5cc0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I don't have any pictures but my 6 year old got up on the surf board by herself this past weekend. Time before last I was in the water with her and flipped the board for her. This time she was in the water by herself and flipped the board and got up. Now we have 4 surfers (All the "Right" side).

A couple from this weekend...