bomoseen avy

looks sweet! Nice color combo. You've got a wind dam, tinted glass, nice bimini, and looks like an equalizer although I don't recognize the upgraded inboats, and I'm guessing removable faceplate head unit-bluetooth is definitely nice if that's present. Otherwise look for plenty of aux-in as kids will take over your music if they haven't already. I don't see sideswipe exhaust which can get in the way of ballast bags. Wondering if he has 1000# bags in the rear lockers. I had a port custom avy bag that was 1500#. Should have a center tank and ask if there is bow ballast. i ran a 400# fatsac in the bow and a 150# on the swim platform, too. Lead will do the same thing. Ask if he has the sprinkler valves-you will probably want to swap those out. You will need PP to surf so factor that in. I tried without it and was extremely frustrating-way too many things to pay attention to driving to keep the throttle at a constant speed with that much weight on. Ask seller what his surf set up is. You can evenly weight with suckgate or list. Factor in who in your crew is goofy or regular. If Goofy riders may want A plate for trim tab. A Lenco or Bennett is preferable to the manual turnbuckle variety to help clean up the wave. High altitude prop (I had 911 and loved it) is a bonus for surfing. Dripless shaft seal also a bonus. Make sure it was maintained with low hours on a 12 year old boat. Make sure all gauges are accurate and in working order, especially fuel. Also check Nav lights and docking lights. Heaters and hot/cold shower are gravy. Good luck!

Awesome boat! Tell us what you plan on using it for (surf already by the sounds of it) and shoot us a list of options it currently sports (PP, Aplate, bags vs stock tanks, speakers, etc.) or send the link. Brought my 3 boys up on an Avy, great all around family boat. If you like to slalom ski as your main use it is possible but this is not the boat for you

looks great! 5200 fast cure?

So I do not have a centurion dealer nearby. The guy that takes care of my boat is a Regal and Mastercraft dealer. They ran a demo day and I got to surf behind the 2018 XT 23. Really cool boat. Totally stock ballast with really nice wave. Some pretty cool features including: No mirror to watch the rider . Basically your touchscreen runs video with a rear facing camera incorporated into the tower. Really neat feature and people not bumping into the mirror every time they go back-and-forth between the bow and the cockpit. My Enzo is a 2013 and this is the first time I’ve been on a boat with this. I realize many of you may have probably seen it already but I thought it was pretty sweet. Multiple areas on the tower to anchor the surf line. We did not use it in the customary center of the tower. We would hook it to anchors on port and starboard which really helped the beginners get into the wave without having to navigate all the wash. Pretty simple concept. Again had never seen this on a boat and thought it was pretty cool. As you would expect from a Mastercraft, fit and finish was excellent. Lots of cabin space. Hard tanks below and soft tanks on top still with plenty o room for storage. Overall just a beautiful presentation of a towboat. I was really pleased leaving the demo, however, feeling no wave envy from the Mastercraft compared to my 2013 Enzo 230+ w/ GSA. It may not be a fair comparison as the Mastercraft was totally stock ballast with no additional lead or other tweaks. Mine is obviously well optimized with upgraded ballast in the rear lockers and lead. But even my wife and son who rode behind both agreed they preferred the Enzo wave. Always love the opportunity to ride behind new boats and new technology. I don’t get to do it very often. I know this is not their top-of-the-line surf model. Really happy how my current Centurion stacked up against this competition. Included some pics of the wife on the Mastercraft wave first and then our Enzo wave second

picture angles are slightly different but she said she preferred the Enzo; just couldn't say why. I think likely a bit more push especially near the back of the wave.

Dude we are both going to have to learn how to surf on the Darkside. Good problem to have!! love your ideas on the programmable settings. Still agree the GSA site should do boat specific installation instructions for different manufacturers and hull types keep me posted if u modify the swim platform bracket. I had similar thoughts before I redrilled the holes in the tab. I’m pretty pleased right now so just gonna enjoy the surf for a while. Maybe a mod for the colder weather months

Yes I have been out maybe 6-8 times on the boat with the system working well. Like MrWick says, it was a journey, but I am super happy with it right now. Having done the mod once, I would be very focused on the final tab deployment angle, given this boat's particular hull shape. Knowing that at the start would have bypassed some initial frustration withthe install. The wake is definitely not smaller than listed or suckgate, and has great push. My regular wave pictured above is with my son who is 6'4" just to put the picture in perspective. Devil's advocate-is it necessary? Maybe not, but I really think it improves the value of the boat. If you're into transfers, a little slow at 3 seconds compared to some of the newer technology out there. For me, I am really glad I did it.

Whoa! That is not what I had on my Avy but may be what Troy was talking about with the sprinkler valves. Mine was simple just aerator pumps (like the mayfair cartrige in your prior pictures) attached to the inside of the transom with dedicated tubing going right to the tank. Follow the tubing each way to see if it goes to bag or another pump on bottom of hull. I don't know what that white thing is?!? Sorry for adding to the confusion

Not sure on that year and model. But I'll put a plug in for CrewAdmin here. I bought a bunch of FlyHigh sacs including a custom avy bag and they walked me through the whole process for my specific boat. I was doing a ballast build and they even sourced me extra tubing! Take advantage of their knowledge and PM them. I don't know if you want 1100# bags in rear lockers or Enzo sac...

boat looks awesome!! Thanks for the pics. Did you source the Gator step right through the company or a dealer? No snags with the logo? Did you have carpet before; pros/cons?

can u post a pic of your transom and also the spray?

In my '03 Avy I had all aerator pumps like that. They don't serve dual purpose. Like Troy says one for empty and on my center tank it was mounted right on the back of the tank. The fill pump was on inside back of transom. Do you have mushrooms on the outside of the transom under the swim platform? That is your pump water intake. From the fill pump mounted to the inside of transom there was tubing that ran to the center ballast tank. This looped up on a bar by the front of the engine before it connected to the center ballast tank. Sometimes it failed to prime and i had to push the tubing down toward the bottom of the hull to allow the water to prime the system enough to start filling. Not sure if this is your issue. The fill pumps are really difficult to get to behind the engine if you have that as your system and not the sprinkler valves

I know you were talking about FAE on your previous post. Is that installed also are do you just have A plate?

Couple pics sorry not great goofy as I was driving

no experience with the switchblade-do you still need an A-plate if you wanna surf goofy? All in all sounds like an awesome starter boat! As long as you know you will be swapping out the hard tanks for surfing and factor that into your budget, I think you're good. Great wave off that hull!!

So not so quick update. Moved all my lead to the back and filled rear lockers and quickfills on both sides. All together 1860# on each side. Synergytogo walked me through his set up and I realized his 233 with the cab forward design does carry bigger bags in the middle seats. At this point I am not filling my pro bags just running all my weight in the rear. He also checked his tab deployment angles for me and it appears that his were running significantly less than mine. My full deployment was anywhere between 11 and 12 degrees his seem closer to 6 and 10 degrees between surf and skim modes. He had his system installed by Ryan. So I told Ryan I was going to move the lower mounting bracket out away from the boat to the next set of holes towards the end of the tab. Pulled the boat out of the water because it was almost impossible to do the work in the water with the boat on the lift. It became apparent that I could get the angle I was looking for in full deployment, but when the tabs retracted they contacted the swim platform pretty firmly. I couldn’t find another hole setting to attach the actuator that would give me what I wanted. I decided to try the system despite the retracted tabs contacting the swim platform. When I put the boat back in the water to try it out I blew the fuse on the controller. Didn’t have time to work on the system so I spent the weekend surfing with the suck gate using my set up from last summer. Ryan spent a bunch of time with me today walking me through what he wanted me to do. I pulled the boat again and retracted both tabs to within a quarter inch of the swim platform. I then used the unscrewed lower mounting bracket per his recommendations to trace an outline where new holes will be drilled into the tab. When the lower mounting bracket was screwed back in this gave me a deployment angle of about 3 1/2° on the starboard side and 2 1/2° on the port side. Took her for a test drive tonight with really good results. Regular wave was long with nice shape and good push even at the rear. I would rate it better than my typical suckgate wave. The goofy wave was an absolute monster. On the regular side I had to run my speed a little slower like around 10.6 mph. We only had one rider on the goofy side and had to speed up to about 11.4 to lengthen it out. Will play around with this but overall really stoked with these results. Definitely a journey but looking forward to taking her out over the next few days. Can’t say enough about Ryan’s help today, too! I’ll try and get some pictures up the next few days. Oh yeah, I have yet to change my prop. Still running the 1847. Tonight the engine seem to be working at a little less RPMs than it had before. I still may look at another prop but will play around with the settings a bit before I do so. Shout out to synergytogo also for all his help! It's so awesome to have the support of this community online. It is greatly appreciated

I did this awhile ago but it worked great

So I think on the GSA install video the recommended deployment of the tab is between 9 and 15°. I checked my angles for deployment for surf and skim using the AngleFinder app that was recommended for the install. I think there is quite a bit of variance with it’s accuracy depending on the curve of the bottom of the hull and the area on the tab that is measured. Anyway in full surf mode I got 8° of deployment and in skin mode I measured 11° of deployment. During the install I had assumed that more deployment was desirable. Would’ve been useful information to know as it may have affected where I mounted the actuator

awesome!! TY!!

so in the vid I had set the unit to surf goofy, so the port tab was deployed to full in "surf" mode. Then had my son move dial to full skim. You get a little movement then no movement but a lot of actuator firing. Then had him move all the way back to surf mode. Lot of movement in the potentiometer dial but tab obviously doesn't respond through that whole range. Not yet sure if more fuel efficient. Still runs at 3500RPM. When I get back I might retract tabs and try suckgate again to see what my RPM's are running

Can u explain the tab deployment angles? Just want to confirm are those tab angle numbers relative to the hull using the angle finder app like on the install videos? Or is that "clicks" like Infinity was describing. Thanks for your input on the journey. I'm out of town for a week so further experiments will be put on hold temporarily...

tried to embed a quick video of potentiometer function but didn't work. I'll try later Went out last night didn't fill mid seat pro bags- left lead in place, filled rear locker PNP's and quickfill. Boat seemed very rear heavy couldn't get nose down as much as usual with A plate so bumped speed up to 11.4 with decent results. Lot of wind so chop made it challenging. Will keep trying but son 3

Pretty sure running the 1847. I say pretty sure because I bought the boat from WETSU last year. I have a spare 1847 and I seem to recall he told me he had the exact same prop mounted. I have to get some goggles on and go on under the lift to confirm. I think I’m going to take a look at the system on the lift today with a helper running the tabs. The center dial knob on the control panel (potentiometer) does not have hard clicks on this model. I will set it all the way counterclockwise (surf) and slowly move clockwise (skim) to see if there is a deployment difference. In the water I have had the system set all the way from “surf” to “skim” without a discernible difference. Your website idea is a great one. I’m sure that would save Ryan a lot of phone calls and texts also. I reached out to synergytogo to see what his set up is as he seems to have a wave he’s really happy with. Ryan also said the less tab in the water the harder the wave will push. You will need more weight in the rear compared to a gate system but not less weight overall.

quick update and I can post pics later for those interested. I saw the SV244 GSA post so I'm not sure if this info is applicable to the bigger brother. Got my third ride out with GSA system this am. Crew of 5. Spoke to Ryan and he recommended all lead in the back lockers, none up front. So 400# rear port and 320#rear strbd. Filled quickfills, both rear lockers and both mid seat bags. Boat struggled to get to 10.8. Emptied strbd mid seat bag half way. Still struggled to get to speed so emptied some of each quick fill (I think half?) until PP was able to catch up-speed 11 mph paddlewheel. This was the best wave I've had so far after install. RPM's at 3500. Face of wave not as steep as I recall listed or with suckgate. I still haven't experienced "crazy push" over the suckgate but this was a very enjoyable wave and could easily ride the back of the wave without shooting out. My son (6'4" 170#) liked it as well as suckgate wave felt he had to try less hard for airs. Obviously will need more tuning but I'm wondering if slamming with weight is actually counterproductive. I'm going to try NOT filling mid seat pro bags next time. If it wasn't such a PITA I might also take all the lead out and try just stock ballast. After I fart around with that I might consider trying to decrease the tab deployment like MrWick. There is definitely a learning curve here, not without a little frustration/anxiety at spending $4K and drilling a bunch of holes in your boat.