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  1. I have a ZS212 and same problem. I have a bum shoulder (actually two of em) and everyone complains about how high my platform is out of the water - even with ballast. The big question for me is did it affect your surf wave?
  2. Super excited to join the Supreme family. After HOURS and HOURS of reading, research, watching, etc., I have decided there is no better bang for your buck in a new boat than a Supreme. I have ordered at 2021 ZS212. I would love to have read of someone's user manual who already has one or a 2020 manual would do. Not sure if it exists as a pdf but anything would be appreciated.
  3. I decided to extend the budget and go big! The 2021s have so many upgrades I love I just had to do it. I ordered a 2021 ZS212. The bigger screen, rider profiles, forward facing tower, closed loop cooling system were all things that sold me. Now can't wait until it shows up in April!
  4. Yes that was stock 2019. It did have the factory 750lb pnps though which I think is an upgrade. I'll upload some pics from my PC later when I can reduce file size.
  5. Ok Supreme owners. I had a chance to get behind this little S211 today. Please keep in mind this review is coming from a die hard Tige guy. I am practically a brand ambassador for Tige. I have given little thought to changing brands. My buddy bought himself a 2016 S226 last summer. I liked the boat but it surfed like garbage. Zero push. Literally the day before he sold it (because he made 6 grand on it) he discovered his starboard quickfill valve was in the manual open position. He rode it like that all summer. Idiot - I know. Another buddy I went to the dealership with today made a deal on trading his Tige R21 in on a 2019 Tige ZX1. I wanted to hitch a ride and look at this little Supreme for interest sake. Ok so back to my honest review of the S211. It is small. The bow is nice and big though for a 21 foot boat. The fit and finish are plain jane but rock solid. The vinyl seems thick and durable. The bimini is not great but ok. The stereo was way better than expected. I don't like those wetsounds grills but that's just my preference. Stereo was more than adequate. The controls and dash are simple and functional. Only thing I didn't like there was the little "signal light" stick that moves the stinger plate but I can overlook that. On to the meat and potatoes. What did it do in the water? After reading several reviews on this very forum I was not expecting much. I was expecting an ok wave with not much push unless the boat had larger pnps and lead added. You guys are not great ambassadors for your brand! For a little 21 foot boat the wave is freaking awesome. We surfed it in 12 to 20 inch chop. It was windy as all get out and the water here in Canada is now a lovely 61 degrees. That boat's ability to cut the chop with zero spray is nothing short of remarkable for it's size. The wave was long and had tons of push! Anyone who says they can't surf that wave ropeless needs to hone their skills. I am 6'4" and 230lbs and had zero issues back there. The boat was also very quite. Very impressed by the engine noise level. If the dealer gives me good value on my 08 Tige I may just leave the family and join yours. Here is a video clip of a minute of my run: In the end I think would likely still throw a couple hundred pounds up front and maybe in each locker but that would be it. Add an FAE (an absolute MUST on ANY boat) and I think she'd be ready to go! I will let you know.
  6. So if you are running a 320lb side bag under seat and 600lbs of lead where do you put your gear? In a 21 ft boat I know first hand space is at a premium. I have a storage issue in my Z1 with no bags under the seats.
  7. S238 vs. The Usual Suspects

    Another factor you guys have yet to consider is fuel economy. I would consider myself an intermediate to advanced surfer. I am a big guy at 6'4" and about 230lbs. I have surfed an S226, a 2019 G23, a 2019 Malibu MXZ, and many Tige's (Z1, Z3, RZ1, R21, RZ2, VE22, 22V). One noticeable difference is the Malibu (and I'm assuming the Axis) with that wedge is BRUTAL on gas. The wedge in my opinion is like dragging an anchor. The wave was great but we went through 50 to 60 litres (13 to 15 gallons) of fuel per hour in the MXZ. To be fair, we had it loaded heavily with peeps and max weight. There is no question the fit and finish on the Nautique and the MXZ are second to none. Gorgeous boats. But in your price range (which is also mine) you want to make sure you are happy with what you want the boat to do. If you are a family who does several activities like wakeboarding, kneeboarding, and surfing you want a boat that can do all of them well. We are primarily surfers. 95% of our boat time is surfing so I am looking for a boat that can deliver the biggest wave. I found my buddies 2016 S226 to have a nice clean wave that is long but has zero push. He is a bit of a noob when it comes to boats. He only owned it for one summer and surfed it with the starboard side quickfill empty the whole time. He only discovered he had a valve stuck open right before he sold it. So that said, I was surfing it without quickfill weight on my side (goofy). I am considering an S211 to replace my 08 Tige Z1. Time to go newer with an automated surf system. I like the supreme line and think it is probably the best value out there. I am disappointed that owners seem to need to add a bunch of additional weight to a new boat that is marketed as a surf boat. The only true test is get the boats you are considering in the water and see the wave for yourself.
  8. Long story short. Have a 2008 (1st generation) Tige Z1. Looking at getting into something newer. A 2019 S211 has come up at a reasonable price locally. I like the look of the S211 and the fit and finish are fine by me. My concern is from what I have been reading, even with the sub floor quickfill and the plug and play bags and the bow tank, the boat still has trouble producing a wave that has much push. This is my number one factor. All my Tige buddies have what I would consider to be excellent surf waves. We are all serious surfers and have been tweaking our waves for years. I would argue they are among the best in the industry. What can a person expect out of a 2019 S211? It's my understanding it only has 100lbs less ballast potential that the 238? Any advice/intel would be appreciated.
  9. While I seem to be on a role learning.... a couple more questions please. 1 - Is the center ballast what some call the bow ballast? The factory options say an available 228 lb bow ballast. Anybody know how much the center ballast can hold? Do people install a front under seat ballast bag as well? 2 - if the center ballast fills and drains from the underside of the boat and there is no gauge, how do you know when it's empty? Thanks
  10. 49faith firstly thanks for your help and sorry for my ignorance. I believe we just had a eureka moment! I think I have this straight now. Does this seem right? Boat has: 1 hard ballast tank in center of boat that is filled/emptied via pump. Switch in center of the three. 2 pnp bags - one in each locker. Switches on either side of center ballast switch above. 2 quick fill hard tanks located port and starboard below the lockers controlled by the open/closed switches?? For crying out loud!! - I didn't even see the bottom row of switches! We were trying to surf with only 550 lb pnp bags and center ballast. God now I feel like an idiot. Thank god for forums! I guess we are out for another test run this weekend.
  11. No he definitely has one center quickfill ballast in the center of the boat and a factory pnp bag in each locker. No bow ballast and the quickfill only has a single toggle switch so I assume there is not separate port and starboard sides to it. Another big feature lacking in this boat is the lack of gauges for ballast levels and more importantly tab position.
  12. Hello. I'm a Tige owner who is trying to help get my buddies new to him 2016 S226 dialed in. He's a newb but will be joining this forum to learn. Having read a bunch of this forum I have a few questions. It seems some people have a bow ballast in their 16s and some have a split quick fill tank??? There seems to be all sorts of different factory configurations. His boat has one center quick fill, and a pnp bag in each rear locker. It has the 3 tab system which I believe you guys call quicksurf. I went out with him yesterday and found the wave to be nice and long but no push and not much height. Keeping in mind I am 6'4" 240lbs and he is bigger we NEED push. The best we could do was surf side locker full, other side part full, quicksurf tab up slightly from fully extended. We had the center quickfill full the entire time. I'm not here to bash Supreme. I love the boat. Great design and roomy. Runs fantastic. I'm just thinking for a 2016 Surf designed boat the wave should have more height and push. I get far more push with my 08 Tige Z1. Not as long for sure but way easier to ride. Any advice helping him dial in would be appreciated!
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