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  1. Hello all, Truly a newbie here. I've maybe been on a power boat a dozen times in my life but my wife just told me that she'd like to get a boat. Please forgive my lack of understanding of boats in general as I ask my questions here. Also, I'm about to write a novel here. Thanks to anyone who takes the time to read the whole book. Very much appreciate any help you all have for me. I've gotten some info from a few of my friends who are boat owners. They each have different thoughts but there are a couple things that have been consistent in what they've told me. I wanted to lay out my situation and thoughts here and get some advice and guidance from the community. First, my buddies have all told me to get a surf boat. They've each independently said that it's the best family experience and will be what my kids will most likely enjoy the most. Having said that, they have also said that I also want a boat that we could ski or wakeboard behind as well. My personal expectation is that we'll primarily surf and pull a tube. I dont know for sure but that is what I'm targeting for the boat. I was also told that a better boat that creates a better wake is not just for expert level surfers but that it is maybe even more important for beginners as it is much easier to get up and then to learn on. So I started checking out surf boats... I was shocked (like, go in the other room and check my drawers shocked), at the cost of a good surfing boat!! I'd hoped to get into this at about 30K but wanted to make sure that I was basing my price point on reality rather than just a number I came up with. 3 of my friends own relatively new boats but one of them owns a 2002 so I called him asking how to do this on a budget. He told me that it's doable but there are some big compromises to make it work. He said that his next boat will be different and, because his family is so in to it, he will sacrifice to spend some money for an upgrade in the next few years. I asked each of them then, keeping in mind that I'm not made of money and would like to do this in the most intelligently conservative way possible, what year I should set as maybe the oldest boat I should consider. They each gave me a different, but similar year ranging from 2011 to 2015. All of them consistently said that it can be done with earlier boats but that the current surf technology was developed in one of those years. They also said that buying a good boat from those years would really get me the technology that is being built into today's boats. It keeps getting refined but hasn't really changed since then. We have 3 kids 15 and under. We live in Utah so it will be all lake and reservoir boating. May include both big and small lakes. So, after that big intro.... I'll ask some specific questions and lay out my considerations but I also ask for any general info that anyone may think I need or would be helpful. All of my questions ultimately roll up to one single question, "What boats should I look at to be as budget minded as possible (60k or less for sure) but get the a good experience for my family, and in a boat that I'm not going to want to upgrade from in the next several years".... My thoughts and questions... 1. I had originally been interested in an Avalanche based on online comments that it makes a great wake, but I dont want to have to add weights and ballast manually and would prefer not to have to add any wake creating devices by hand to the boat to get a good wake. I'd like the surfability to be as automated as possible. When I go boating I want to boat, not manage the boat... I assume that this is why my friends told me to go with a newer boat from a minimum years I listed. (Any consensus on an oldest year to consider?) 2. I dont necessarily want high luxury but I do value good build quality and reliability. I dont want popping seams, stitching coming apart, or electronics issues being a big part of my boating experience. I dont know whether to look at the main brands or one of the value focused brands. Specific to centurian I wonder about the difference between Centurian and Supreme. Is the build quality and surf system just as good but the boat just isnt as nice and luxurious? Or is there a better build quality and usability in the upper lines? For example, would I be better served buying a 2012 Enzo or a 2015 Supreme? I know this is a Centurion forum, but similarly, should I consider Moomba, Axxis, even Heyday instead of older Mailbu/Centurian/MC/Nautica/Tige? 3. In reading about wake quality I've developed an personal perception of wake quality in the different brands. I want to validate correct my view. Please correct or comment on the following; Super Nautique - I've been told this is the gold standard. The wake is huge and long but it is also steep so it really is only the gold standard for expert surfers. For other surfers the gold standard is maybe Tige or Centurion??? Centurian/Supreme - hull shape makes a great wake with less ballast than other brands. Wake great quality and is easy to surf. Is there a difference in wake quality between the two? Malibu/Axis - seem like, at least in the older years, they seemed to be more focused on wakeboarding. Are they as good as the centurion lines now for surfing? Value? Tige - Have read that, similar to Centurion, they have a deep hull design that makes a great wake. Have heard that it is a much better wake on the goofy side than the Centurion. Mastercraft - thoughts? Is the X series as good for surfing as others mentioned here? Is the NXT a good option? Moomba - seems like a great value and I've read great things about the surfability. Any other concerns or considerations? Heyday - Great value. Seems to be a newer and not mainstream brand but seems to rate well on wake. The places I've read say that the wake isnt as good as the top boats though.. anyone have any experience? Is the layout od the boat a good place for the family to hang out? One of my friends almost bought one of these. Resale value? Yamaha - my wife likes these but they dont really seem to be made for surfing. Correct? I haven't really been considering these for that reason. Are all of these boats usable for wakeboarding and skiing or do some compromise those aspects more than others? Lastly, Any advice on buying? Best time to buy? How to get the best deal? As I look at listings for boats, it seems that the cost to buy one of the value brands vs the main brands seems to converge on the 2012 to 2015 years.it seems like there may only be a 10 grand and 1 model year difference to buy a centurian vs a supreme for example. Am I seeing that wrong? Thoughts on this? Again, Thanks again for any help. Happy boating all!
  2. Wanted to share some surf info for the older Typhoons and Concourses with the stepped hull/cut away hull. I believe they were built from 2001 until 2005. Found a great surfing set up today that worked awesome for surfing the port side. Probably the best wave I have found so far. I am 235 lbs so the wave needs to be good for me to free surf, and I could have surfed that wave all day. Lots of push with a nice pocket. I was surfing my old Obrian TT. Wish I would have had the Phase 5 with me, but I will give that a try in a few days. Lots of forgiveness, and easy enough to recover if you got a little far back. I have tried many options from more weight in the port locker to more weight on/under the port side seats. Today I had less weight than I normally use and it worked way better. Even when I added a few more pounds in the port locker or port side seat, it made things worse. Weight Set up with people or ballast: Port locker/deck 900 lbs Port seat 175 - 200 lbs Center tank 250 lbs Bow adjust as needed I had approximately 350 lbs Plus driver I ran 500 lbs in the port locker and two guys sitting on the back deck port side (Total of approximately 900 lbs) 1 guy sitting in the back port corner seat at 175 lbs. 250 lbs in the center hull tank. 350 lbs in the bow. I have a ballast bag under the filler cushion in the bow I can adjust as needed. Needed approximately 170 lb ballast plus 1 person at 180 lbs) Running 10 - 11 mph Hope this helps out my fellow Typhoon and Concourse owners with the cut away/stepped hull. I look forward to hearing from other older Typhoon/Concourse owners. Keep on Surfing.
  3. The boat is currently configured to be listed only to the port side for surfing. It has a huge custom bag on the port side that fills the rear locker and runs up under the seats. I don't know how much water weight it holds but I'm guessing well over 1000#. The starboard side has a custom bag (I'm guessing 720#) that only fills the locker. I'm not a huge fan of listing boats to surf them. I'm planning to put Infinity Wave tabs on this boat and evenly weight it. So I'm thinking of getting another 720# for port side and see what kind of wave I get on #1500# plus the center hard tank (another 225#). I'm not really looking for a monster wave per se. I just want one with a nice relatively long pocket, good push, and a clean face. I ride goofy btw. I'm just wondering if anyone here has experience with this setup and/or this boat and give me some pointers. Thanks for any advice. PS: I've owned an 07 Elite C4 with 750#'s in the lockers and 225# hard tank with a suck-gate and it produced a really nice regular wave, however, the goofy wave had a narrow pocket and a dirty face. Hoping to build a much better wave with the Avalanche.
  4. Guys, I am new to the forum as I just bought my first Centurion a couple weeks ago. It is a 2004 Enzo SV230. My current setup is the factory hard tanks under each side of the boat and 2 540 lb bags (one in each rear locker), plus a delta mission surf shaper. Those are all plumbed in. I own 2 350 lb bags that are not plumbed, but can be filled with a separate pump. Any ideas on the best weight set up to create a good surf wave with enough push? I am still struggling with throwing the rope and consistently staying in the pocket. Once I drift back, it is tough to push back forward. I am 6 foot, 180 lbs and riding a 5 foot 4 inch hyperlite broadcast. Any thoughts on a good board for me? I am fairly new to surfing, but have been wakeboarding my entire life. Thanks for all the input.
  5. Guys, I am new to the forum as I just bought my first Centurion a couple weeks ago. It is a 2004 Enzo SV230. My current setup is the factory hard tanks under each side of the boat and 2 540 lb bags (one in each rear locker), plus a delta mission surf shaper. Those are all plumbed in. I own 2 350 lb bags that are not plumbed, but can be filled with a separate pump. Any ideas on the best weight set up to create a good surf wave with enough push? I am still struggling with throwing the rope and consistently staying in the pocket. Once I drift back, it is tough to push back forward. I am 6 foot, 180 lbs and riding a 5 foot 4 inch hyperlite broadcast. Any thoughts on a good board for me? I am fairly new to surfing, but have been wakeboarding my entire life. Thanks for all the input.
  6. Hey guys, I was surfing last weeks snow storm here in Edmonton, and was wondering if we have any other crazy people from Edmonton or Alberta planning to surf this Friday or Saturdays snow storm. I have just winterized my boat today and I am already regretting it. If any of the Albertan crew are thinking of going for a Canadian polar bear surf, I would be glad to help you brush the snow off your boat and join you. Our Centurion friends from the South have the Utah Surf Mafia, I am thinking we need to start the Albertan Polar Bear Surf Crew.
  7. Holy Crap! http://www.surfermag.com/features/mick-fanning-attacked-by-shark-at-j-bay-open/#BM6rCS42XBHeLK4U.97
  8. Hey Everyone! Lets compile some of the best hits of all time (and new ones we have found) for being out on the water. Don't know how many of yall use Spotify but I can go through and make a playlist ( or a couple by genre/mood) for everyone to have when we are out on the water next summer! Or for you jerks that get to board all winter... Anyway, suggestions for format of playlists, are of course welcome, and I will try to keep up with edits to this post(assuming that is possible) with the song list as people add tunes.
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