Timr71

We talked about this in the "Older Centurion" thread. Do you have a Tru-Trac or a Falcon? If yes, post a pic or multiple pics of it here. Have a good work around or modification, post it here. Questions? Post them here. I have some old brochures, I'll post them up this evening. Here's a pic of my 1993 open bow Falcon.

Just decided to re-visit this forum and this thread. Giving it a bump. I saw a guy with a question about a Falcon on here, he was looking for resources...looks like he never found this thread. I hope your boats are running well. Stay safe out there.

Be sure to check out this thread:

You should be able to get to a spectrum gel kit color to get what you need. See what you can find here: https://spectrumcolor-com.3dcartstores.com/Gel-Coat-Search_c_7.html

This should be the manual for your engine. Assuming that your 1993 Falcon has an Indmar model 250. That's a 351 Ford. That's what came out of my 1993 Falcon. But I ended up swapping a different engine into mine. 1993 Indmar Owner's manual

That's going to be hard to find. But you should be able to find the manual for your engine. Sorry.

Waterski Mag buyer's guide - 1993 Tru Trac III: https://books.google.com/books?id=QyE2AQAAMAAJ&lpg=PA1&pg=PA113#v=onepage&q&f=false

Jasper Engines and Michigan Motors both offer marine configured engines. Take a look at them.

Wow...that's a tough one. I had to replace the shaft in my Falcon and if I recall it was 42"". But I'm not sure that's exactly what you'll need. There's some guys on here you have Tru Tracs...maybe they'll happen along and give a better answer. Another option is to call Ron at Skiboatspartsonline.com and talk it through with him. He's pretty knowledgeable and might be able to help.

1. I can't think of any reason other than in the patterns that are popular, you can hide the seam in the black going from bow to stern. 2. Here's that seat base: https://www.ebay.com/itm/192155525932?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=192155525932&targetid=1068323860270&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=1013095&poi=&campaignid=11755693419&mkgroupid=112482247605&rlsatarget=pla-1068323860270&abcId=9300462&merchantid=6572574&gclid=Cj0KCQjwrsGCBhD1ARIsALILBYqT_-O-b4n-g37wJ57AokwQYQpCyjgmYnXFOJ52L7vVEwtD1oeMBYkaAp4WEALw_wcB 3. Probably going to need the help of an upholstery guy.

Need a picture, but your fab approach is probably going to be needed because that part(s) will be nearly impossible to find.

You might try calling Ron at Ski boat parts online. Maybe he can help. https://www.skiboatpartsonline.com/index.php

Bumping this thread, and adding to the resource details. Most of these vintage boats utilize the Morse MV2 throttle control / shifter. That item is no longer available. Mine is worn probably more than most because at one point in my boat's life, it was operated in salt water. The wear items inside are pitted and grooved. I noticed this when I rebuilt the unit nearly 6 years ago. Now it's binding up again. The replacement for the Morse MV2 is the SeaStar CH2900P Control, MV-3 Competition Ski Boat. I just received one and will have it in the boat soon...next few weeks I hope. I'll let you know how it work. There's numerous places you can order one from, but supply appears to be limited.

Here's a link to the boat buyer's guide from that year: WaterSki Boat Buyer's Guide from 2005. You can compare the Tornado with the T5. Looks like not the same hull.

You can try calling Ron at https://www.skiboatpartsonline.com/index.php If you have pictures of your existing steering helm, he can probably help you figure out what you need. Good luck!

7K sounds reasonable. If this is the boat that you want...get it as cheap as you can. My cousin, Uncle and I did a full restoration on an 88 Falcon a couple of years ago. It's a nice boat. Good luck.

Well, I don't know when I became "that guy" but I'm going to give you "that guy" response. I'm active on a number of boat forums and there's always someone who points out these items. First though, are you looking for a boat that is ready to go to the lake or looking for a project...or something in between? Understand this: it's a 30 year old boat that you're looking at. I would think that you need to try to uncover as much as you can about the boat's history and it's care. Because of these two things: 1. The boats stringer structure and floor contains wood and 2. poorly maintained engine could be a bundle of issues. Let's talk about that wood first. There's wood in the stringers, floor, and transom. All of it was encapsulated in fiberglass. And that fiberglass probably held water at bay for maybe up to 20 years. A lot if it depends on how the boat was cared for. If it has spent its entire time in someone's garage then it's possible that none of those areas contain rot. If it's been left outside, un-covered, it's likely that some if not all three of those areas are rotting. That would also mean that the boat contains wet flotation foam. When you look at the boat, look for any sings of rot and water damage in the bilge and feel the floor for soft spots. Also put a wrench on the engine mount bolts, if they're tight, it's probable that there's dry wood in the stringers, if they spin with little to no resistance, they're probably rotten. Google: tournament ski boat stringer replacement and read some stringer threads over on correccraftfan.com. Are you wanting to tackle a full stringer replacement restoration? The engine stuff is a bit easier. Just try to determine if it's been winterized properly. Look for signs that water was left in it during the winter and therefore things including the block could be cracked. Obviously, run the engine, drive the boat if you can. Wear items are less problematic. Good luck! Post pics. Do as much research as you can. -Tim

Great looking boat! And welcome to the group here. I don't have a definite answer to your question. Your prop shaft is probably a 1 inch diameter and that'll take 1/4 stuffing. I've had the rudder out of my boat within the last couple of years, but I don't recall it's diameter. Seems like it's a little be more than 1 inch. You'll just have to tear into it and see what you find. Check out skidim.com for graphite based cord stuffing that can be run at virtually drip-less pressure.

Wood Floor...interesting. Composite Stringers and wood back floor? I guess that's a possibility. Email to Centurion - good luck with that. I never heard back from them when I tried that route. Air Warrior - was a package that included, trim, graphics and ballast, not a totally different model from the elite bowrider DD.

Hi, Here's the proof you are looking for. In the boat buyer's guide from Waterski Magazine for the 1998 model year, You'll see that the 1998 Elite Bowrider uses an all composite construction. See page 157. It's safe to assume that everything newer than that also uses the same construction process. So, you should be good to go. https://books.google.com/books?id=oic2AQAAMAAJ&lpg=PA1&pg=PA155#v=onepage&q&f=false

It just turns out that I was recently looking at the Boat Buyer's Guide for 1998. I've been skiing behind a 1998 Supra at the ski club so I wanted to read up on it. Take a look here on page 157. https://books.google.com/books?id=oic2AQAAMAAJ&lpg=PA1&pg=PA155#v=onepage&q&f=false

Are you planning to chronicle your rebuild here on centurioncrew.com ? Or somewhere else? or not at all? My Falcon restoration thread was over on iboats. Check it out: https://forums.iboats.com/forum/boat-repair-and-restoration/boat-restoration-building-and-hull-repair/10391486-1993-ski-centurion-restoration

Will you have to re-power, or just rebuild the engine? My Falcon is a 1993, and it came with a Ford/Indmar 351...it too was toast. My cousin's 1996 Falcon donated it's low hour Mercruiser GM 350. So I now have a GM engine sitting where a Ford once was. It can be done pretty easily. How's the floor and stringers in your project boat?

Sorry, I just noticed the 1990 model year tag. Definitely a 351. probably the only powertrain available that year.

bump for Robson83 - new Falcon owner