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  1. Supreme S238 vs. Axis T23

    Sorry its been so long to give you guys and update on my demo of the boats I was looking to purchase. I was waiting for the dealer to get the 2017 S238's in stock. I have been researching the "value boats" for a while and I ended up demoing the following: 2017 Supreme S238 2016 Mastercraft NXT22 2017 Axis T23 2016 Moomba Mojo All of these boats were great overall, but I have to sacrifice something with each one. Here is a breakdown of my thoughts on each. 2017 Supreme S238 Pros: This is a clean boat and I really like the new look of the boat with the new tower and windshield. The interior of the boat was the nicest of the four, especially around the dash area. The drive and handling was super smooth, and it took choppy water like a champ (best of the four). Wakeboard wake was above average, and the surf wave was big enough for my family to grow into. The dealer put in aftermarket sound, and it the sound system was amazing. Cons: The new digital surf controls were difficult to manage while driving. You have to drive with your forearms. Even though the interior quality was really nice, the boat lacks some of the creature comforts offered by other boat (i.e. rear facing seats, dual zone volume control). Biggest con to this boat has to be storage. There is limited storage and if you sac out the port and starboard storage with sacks, you only have one storage compartment left. 2016 Mastercraft NXT22 Pros: This is a really nice boat with a clean well made interior. The interior is well laid out and provided a ton of room for family and friends. The boat handled very well and was decent in choppy water. I like the overall look of the boat minus the tower. Lots of deep storage for all the things you need to bring when you have kids. Wake and wave setup was really easy with the analog switches. I think this boat is a great option for someone with small kids learning wake sports for the first time like myself. Cons: The wakes and surf wave on this boat were good but not great, We had the boat maxed out with sac ballast and had to add an additional sac in the floor of the boat to get me surfing. It would be hard to grow with this boat long term and I don't plan on trading it in in 2 years to take a hit. The sound system distorted at higher volume when we had to crank it up while driving. It also lacked rear facing seats, and the seats were not all that comfortable. Axis T23 Pros: The performance and handling of this boat was great. I really felt like I had a connection to boat while driving it, especially through the turns. The wake and surfwave were legit on this boat, and setup was really easy. The surf wave was the longest and had a ton of push. The sound system was above average and I really like the dual zone control. The interior features with rear facing seats, storage and playpin bow are nice additions to this boat. Cons: Even though the creature comforts are nice, the interior overall was disappointing. Some of the dash pieces, including the push button controls looked like they were glued on with elmers glue. I don't know that that quality will hold up to the destructive power of a 4 and 5 year old long term. Also, personal preference, but the gelcoat schemes available in the Axis are not as nice as some of the other boat options. Lastly, choppy water was not great. This boat slapped pretty hard and you could hear a difference from the other boats. It seemed hollow compared to some of the others. 2016 Moomba Mojo Pros: Decently nice interior with good creature comforts including rear facing seat with back rest and ample storage. Overall performance and handing was above average. Wakes and surfwave were pretty good but it took a while to get it dialed in. Cons: Controls have to be managed constantly in this boat. I can see how that could be good for customizing waves and wakes, but was a negative for me because it would be difficult for other people to drive the boat while I get behind the boat. The interior features were nice but like the Axis, overall quality was below average. Also, this boat did not track as well through turns as well as the other boats. Verdict: I came into this process with limited knowledge, as this will be my families first boat. I have had a great time driving, surfing, and wakeboarding behind all the boats, but I feel like I have to give up something big for each one of these boats. My next step, is to increase my budget a bit and look at used luxury boats. I'm glad I went through this process so I could learn what I like and what don't, and most importantly, what will work best for my family. Thanks for all of your advice, and I would love to hear your thoughts on my feedback.
  2. Supreme S238 vs. Axis T23

    Thank you everyone for the feedback, it's very helpful. I have set up demos with both dealers and I have thrown a third boat in the mix because the dealer(Mastercraft NXT22) here in Texas is so great. My initial instinct at the moment is the Supreme, but I look forward to updating everyone in a few weeks after the demo. Thanks again for the response from everyone here...great group!
  3. Supreme S238 vs. Axis T23

    Thanks for the info. Can you be more specific about the build quality. Every sales guy I have talked to talks about this, but I'm not educated on the topic enough yet to really know what differences matter. Thanks.
  4. New here, and looking for some advice. I am going to be purchasing my families first boat in a few months and I have narrowed my choices down to the 2017 Supreme S 238 or 2017 Axis T23. Has anyone driven/surfed/wakeboarded behind both boats? What were the pros and cons of each? Which boat is better for small children learning to surf, ski, board, ect? Full disclosure, I am also posing this question on the malibu crew forum as well.
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