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DjOM21

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  1. Let's see those Supreme Boats Homies.
  2. So after a bit of a debate I pulled the trigger on this boat. Nice rig - fully loaded, low hours and equipped with a 6.2 Black Scorpion!!. I would say a good starter boat. So I have a couple questions and observations, I have been digging through the forms for the answers, but thought I would post a new thread to see if I can get all the info consolidated in one place. 1. Installed Enzo sac on port side. Slow to fill (as expected) but drain time was ok with two aerator pumps attached. So I am thinking about just adding a tsunami to the mix to help with the fill times and limit the amount of cost required to get the fill times down to 10 min or so. Any thoughts on how to maximize performance with the stock 5 tank two ballast puppy manifold system, without creating a huge project? 2. Is it acceptable to just run check vales on the vent / drain line and discharge them out the surf side. I realize that moving them to the opposite side is the main suggestion, but do both methods not prevent back flow. 3. I am assuming that it is normal to have water left over in the sacs after draining with aerators since they cannot vacuum like an impeller. So I guess we just live with it or upgrade? 4. I noticed my carpet was wet in my lockers ( Port and bow sac) after my surf session today. I am thinking a loose connection on my vent fitting as the hose is a bit short. I am going to throw some pipe tape on the threads, to ensure a tight seal. But could their be something else at play here? I just don't want mold forming I guess, especially when I have the boat out in the fall months and their is not a lot of warm weather left to dry her out. 5. I don't have a battery switch on my boat. Just a breaker at the engine and one near the batteries. If I want to just float and listen to music, will killing the engine bay switch preserve one battery? 6.Propeller - I am at 3500 feet and probably will run 2000 pounds of ballast. Boat came with a 537 - Maybe I should phone acme Thanks Guys.
  3. What about the M50 Water Dragons that the factory uses? https://www.covertlights.com/M50-xx12-1/ They claim to be 5500 Lumens each on the 12 Diode model. Which seems to be higher than the life form 9 for example for a comparable price.
  4. If you do order another boat (Centurion / Supreme), make sure to have your dealer call the Factory Rep and see if they can kick in a extra discount for all the headaches with the S238.
  5. I ran sumo 1000's and I busted out a divider. The fix is to get a #10 or #12 1 1/4" screws and replace the wimpy screws that come from the factory in the brackets. After that no more problems. Remember to use sealant on the screws as you are essentially screwing int the edge of the hardtanks. Sumo 1000 and #800 pound of lead worked well all season and this was good with two people on the boat. I still liked to run 400# on the seat though when short on crew. 6 People and the wake was great. I found storage more than adequate with this set up. I like you was not interested in mid ship water bags. Add more lead and let the forklift operator worry about it.
  6. I find it doubtful that a FS33 is 5600#. 4600# Makes more sense. An Ri 237 is #5500 dry and that is a much bigger boat.
  7. Yeah if your dealer is not stepping up to get all your issues sorted now in the offseason then its time for a call to Fineline to let them know. I don't know what your issues are but I am sure all can be resolved, except maybe the wakeboard wake thing. Ha! I think Supreme is a quality boat. Even though I have had issues with my bimini, stereo, trailer, transducer and some minor stress cracks around one tower arm - my dealer will get it taken care of in the offseason. During the season its tough as most dealer are jammed up with big ticket items, so knocking off these minor issues can take time. Is MB going to be better, who knows. Personally I think the Supreme 238 gets most things right - simple spacious classic boat that gets you all the modern convinces for a decent price. I personally also prefer the pcm power plant to the indmar offerings. Once they add Opti-V and MORE Ballast this boat will be hard to beat. Nevertheless I am buying an Ri! Good Luck and hold your dealers feet to the fire and get them to make it right.
  8. Curious if the surf wave is impacted by the change to the Opti-V hull on the Ri 237 for 2018? I understand that the efficiency and RPMs have improved with the hull changes and the move to a larger prop - but has this changed the wave?
  9. 18 Ri 237 VS 17 Ri 237

    So how about a 2017 with H6 and CATS vs a 2018 with HO 6.0 and No CATS?
  10. 18 Ri 237 VS 17 Ri 237

    Good info gents. The whole motivation for the question is to decide if a 18 is worth it over a 17. With the price increases and depreciation factored in I lean to a demo 2017 with a 16" prop if the surf waves are comparable.
  11. As mentioned. Pull all the blue drain plugs and remove your hose for you heater and then blow down the line to get all the water out of your heater core. Also, read through your PCM engine manual, it should say the same thing. Cover up and wait for some warmer weather - we can get a few more surf runs in. I mean sunny and 15C Ambient and 58C Water Temp is nice right? As long as the Damn wind stays away.
  12. If Fineline would give this thing enough ballast to start and CATS it would be such a killer boat. Just give me a way to keep the wave face nice and clean no matter what the conditions. I don't wake board - so have little input on the wake there. Also, if you are not running 1000 pound bags in each corner and 800-1000# of lead then yeah I could see how some people get a bad impression. I am over the whole list the boat philosophy now too. Fill the dam thing, drop the tabs and surf side to side all day. Quick and convenient. Works great for our needs - everyone obviously is different. Still want an Ri237 with Opti- V but man the price uptick is no joke - so compromise. S238 = Rock solid boat, great stereo, wicked power plant and roomy. Overall great value and straight up classy style. Is it perfect no - but what is? Now I have seen some MB's that tun my head for sure - not keen on the dash at all - but other than that looks like a wicked boat. Not sure on the wave - but I am guessing it can out surf most of us.
  13. Fi23 first impressions

    Just buy a 257 - You demand the best surf wave , buy the biggest nastiest thing going - cost be damned.
  14. So can we retrofit the 2017 6.0 with the Livorsi? This boat already drives pretty great, but I may pony up the cost if it's reasonable and improves the overall experience of driving.
  15. Good points. The boat is going in this week, so I will put it through its paces and report back,
  16. Any update on this? Supreme sent my dealer a little dongle with a resistor on it. Yet to install and may not even hassle with it if its the same part that did not fix the problem for Cwazy1.
  17. No regrets

    Yes the stinger will do this but I usually have a light crew and find if its just two of us on the boat that running the stinger to far down just squashes the power of the wave. Still surfable just more work, not my preference. With more people in the boat there may be more wiggle room with this while still being able to maintain the push. I think my preference to lengthen the wave would be more bow weight as opposed to more stinger. I have tried the bow bag and have not noticed much of a change, but again this was with only a few people in the boat. I typically only fill the center tank and the wave is plenty long. I can get right into the break 25 feet back and ride if I want. I think there is a point where more weight will not make the wave better and once it's dialled that's probably as good as it will get. I had a big crew out and the boat actually struggled, so I dialled back the ballast to smooth things out as it was no fun to drive. Anyway, everyone's prefernces are different. I just know that I have been getting a long, clean and poweful wave with a very basic set up and just two people in the boat and can switch sides in an instant. That is valuable for me and I think for most that need to switch often.
  18. Reference Checklist 1. Boat Model: 2017 238 2. Regular or Goofy: Both 3. Bow Ballast Percent: 0% 4. Mid Ballast Percent: 100% 5. QF Port Percent: 100% 6. QF Starboard Percent: 100% 7. PnP Port Weight: 1000 8. PnP Starboard Weight: 1000 9. Other Ballast Weight (ie. Lead): 800# - 200 Stb PNP, 200 Port PNP, 200 Stb midship, 200 Port Miship 10. Number of Crew and positioning: 2 11. QuickSurf Port Setting: 0% Goofy, 100% Regular 12. QuickSurf Starboard Setting: 100% Goofy, 0% Regulat 13. Stinger Tab Setting: 0% Goofy, 0-15% Regular just to clean the wash. Stinger kills the wake unless you have a lot of people ballast on board. 14: Picture: See below. I am really liking this set up. Almost identical wake side to side and I actually think the goofy side is slightly cleaner - weird. Anyway it's working well and the more people you add the wave just gets bigger and better. Long, clean and plenty of push. Pictures are approximate as it seems I am always driving or surfing and nobody else can be bothered to take some shots.
  19. No regrets

    I have to agree it is a great boat. I have 5O hours on mine and still kinda fiddling finding what works best. Lately I have been running quick surf and it works well actually and is nice for switching sides since wifey is regular and I am darkside I have sumo 1000s 200 of lead under each rear sack and 200 under each midship stacked flat on floor. Everything full except bow bag. Surf side quick surf @ 100% and Stinger @ 0-15%. Good wave with just a driver and killer wave with 2-4 people on the surf side. Super clean on both sides when it calm, but chop / wind can really funk things up. I was a bit surprised that QS actually works so well. I did find that when running quick surf minimize the use of the stinger tab as it kills the wave and the push.
  20. Enzo 230 prop

    I would think Acme 1579 or 1619 is the best option as I believe the 13.5" diameter will be your limiting factor. The latter will have a lower pitch so theoretically should pull harder.
  21. Lets see your ride doing work!

    I guess technically this combo represents 809hp and 1209 ft lbs of torque.
  22. Personally I kinda like standing up when driving anyway. Let's get listed! Would help if the bolster was not so squishy.
  23. Would be nice if this could get sorted. Sucks not to be able to enjoy this stereo.
  24. Just use a 4" hose clamp on cup holders. Make sure to spin the screw towards the transom when tight, so it doesn't damage the ballast bag. I have surfed goofy like this: Port PNP = Empty Port QF = 100% 100# Lead Back Corner STB PNP (1000 Sumo) = FULL STB QF = 100% 100# Lead Back Corner 150# Lead under Starboard Bench Seat 400# Fatsac on Starboard Bench Seat When light on crew. Center Tank - 75% Bow Sac - Empty STB Surf Tab @ 55 Stinger 20 ish or just enough to clean it up. Bow rides high and make it hard to see, other than that Seems to work ok, but conditions have choppy during testing. Also , make sure you are in 18+ Feet of water - this makes a big difference. I think a good setup would be 200# of Lead for each Rear Corner , 200# for each midships bench seats then 2 150# fat bricks for the seats for light crew days and for quick transfers side to side.
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