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Wanted to share some surf info for the older Typhoons and Concourses with the stepped hull/cut away hull. I believe they were built from 2001 until 2005. Found a great surfing set up today that worked awesome for surfing the port side. Probably the best wave I have found so far. I am 235 lbs so the wave needs to be good for me to free surf, and I could have surfed that wave all day. Lots of push with a nice pocket. I was surfing my old Obrian TT. Wish I would have had the Phase 5 with me, but I will give that a try in a few days. Lots of forgiveness, and easy enough to recover if you got a little far back. I have tried many options from more weight in the port locker to more weight on/under the port side seats. Today I had less weight than I normally use and it worked way better. Even when I added a few more pounds in the port locker or port side seat, it made things worse. Weight Set up with people or ballast: Port locker/deck 900 lbs Port seat 175 - 200 lbs Center tank 250 lbs Bow adjust as needed I had approximately 350 lbs Plus driver I ran 500 lbs in the port locker and two guys sitting on the back deck port side (Total of approximately 900 lbs) 1 guy sitting in the back port corner seat at 175 lbs. 250 lbs in the center hull tank. 350 lbs in the bow. I have a ballast bag under the filler cushion in the bow I can adjust as needed. Needed approximately 170 lb ballast plus 1 person at 180 lbs) Running 10 - 11 mph Hope this helps out my fellow Typhoon and Concourse owners with the cut away/stepped hull. I look forward to hearing from other older Typhoon/Concourse owners. Keep on Surfing.

Although I have never dealt with Fineline directly, it was always good to know that was an option. Being from Edmonton we have had to deal with a poor dealer for years. Luckily the dealer out of Calgary was always able to take care of my needs. Now with Wizard Lake Marine on board, hopefully our local dealer is able to provide the support that is necessary.

Ok, was out on the lake yesterday. My SV 233 was running 4600 rpm at WOT, at around 35 mph. Currently running an Acme 1847 - 14" x 14.25" prop.

I have a 2012 - 233 seems low, but I will verify what mine is next time out. Rarely running WOT heading across the lake. Which lake are you at? We hang out mostly at Wizard Lake.

Glad to hear everyone is ok Infinity. Like you say, i hope the kids don't get a little gun shy. It has been quite a few years now, but we got hit by a surprise storm about 20 years ago. Only had to travel a couple miles to get to the launch, but things got pretty crazy before we got the boat loaded. Mother Nature can get pretty vicious sometimes.

Yep us too. We just hit 333 hrs. Bought it with 100 hrs on it. Relatively trouble free. Have to put support braces on the engine covers, change a heater vent, change a cockpit light. Tighten up a loose throttle. Nothing major just general maintenance.

I used to do the same thing, but have been slacking. Only been out 4 times this year but keep forgetting to give them a spray which probably explains why my valve stuck open yesterday when we pulled the boat out of the water. It will get a good spray today.

It has been a couple years since I messed with my valves. Mine were sticking so I had my son hit the open button and I gave the red key a twist. They would only open part way so I hit them with some silicone spray lube. Worked them back and forth a couple times and managed to get them functioning a bit better. Yours are probably sticking, that is why one turns more than the other. Try working it back and firth and hit it with some spray lube. Sometimes I can't get them to fully functional on land, but after some spray, the always seem to work on the water. Maybe the extra hydrostatic pressure while submerged helps with opening the valves. I was coming up on a long weekend at the time so I ordered up a back up valve, and at that time the only thing I could find close enough to get shipped in time was another drainmaster valve. As luck would have it, I have had to work the valves a couple times to get them working over the last 3 years, but have not yet had to change the valve. Still have the back up valve in the boat. We are heading back out today and I noticed one of the valves had stuck open when we loaded onto the trailer yesterday. Looks like I might have to work them again today. Even if you can't get them to open and close completely with the red key, spray them down a few times, and let it sit for a few minutes. Don't hesitate to test them on the water even if they are not fully functioning, they seem to react differently on land then they do in the water. Even if the only open a little bit, that is enough to still fill and once the hydrostatic pressure equalizes on both sides, they will probably function well enough to get you through the weekend. Good luck. Wish I was closer could have lined you my back up valve. Happy 4th of July. Hope you get through the weekend.

2013 SV233 Love the discreet markings on our boat. We hangout on a small lake littered with Nautique, Malibu, Moomba, and Mastercraft boats. Very few Centurions. I quite often get compliments on the wave, and get asked what brand of boat it is due to the lack of brand logos on the side. Nice compliment coming from some pretty prestigious brands. I tell my kids to surf proud when we are surfing amongst royalty, lol.

I get a kick out of watching our regular crew surfing the suck gate for the first time. They don't realize how much longer the pocket is. It takes them a bit to realize they don't need to keep pumping the board to catch up to the wave. Once they relax and let the wave do it's thing they are pretty amazed at the new wave. We have it dialed in for a much longer wave with much more push and I think we can get it even better with a bit more weight in the bow. That was 225# ballast and 180# person in the bow. Hopefully we get back out tomorrow. Hoping to try 500 - 575# in the bow. Myself I find it to be a slower wave than the fast steep listed wave I have become accustomed to, but with 2 min change overs just to move the suck gate, it means way more surfing and less time waisted swapping ballast. With a couple goofy riders on the crew, the suck gate is going to get a lot of action this summer. It probably doesn't hurt that my son thinks he likes the suck gate wave better on the goofy side.

A few pics of the wave today with our suck gate in action. Used it all day today.

Listed, 2012 SV 233 Port side: Both QF 100% P PnP 100% P Pro 100% 90# lead in rear port and rear stb lockers No cats on our boat Biggest dude in the ballast boy seat. No bow weight. 11.2 - 11.4 mph Extra bodies or extra weight means a bigger wave, but at 250# I can surf just fine without adding any more weight than mentioned. We have started using our suck gate more often when we need to switch back and forth to goofy. Longer wave, lots of push, not as steep, but definitely lots of fun to surf. Two different style waves, but both are enjoyable.

Pulled our old 23' typhoon and now our SV233 with my 1998 Z71 half ton. No issues. It basically stays hooked to the boat all summer. Been going on 10 years with no issues. We are always late getting out of the driveway, so the foot is in it, but I usually back off the gas long before corners to let things slow down without too much brake use. We are fortunate that we are mostly flat grade from home to the lake.

Definitely a cleaner goofy wave than we get. Do you have the A plate? I keep saying I need to get one, but still havent. We can get a nice clean wave listed, but not with the suck gate.

Yep, figured I was probably going to need more bow weight. We were running a light crew. One body in the bow helped but still felt like we needed more weight up there. The lead was buried deep under the full ballast bags in the rear lockers or we would have moved them. That's the plan for the next time out. I love the steep, fast wave we normally get without the suck gate, but I think we have more push and a way longer pocket with the suck gate, and that was without spending much time fine tuning the wave. With me at 250#, more push is always a good thing. We messed with the trim, found having it at 100% helped get up to surf speed after the launch and then backed it down to between 30 - 50%.

Hey guys, has anyone had one of these out surfing yet. Have a buddy looking at new boats looking for info on choices of boats. I'm happy as hell with my SV 233, and are there are a few of them around here used, but he prefers to buy new. I have kind of lost touch on some of the newer stuff. I'm bias towards Centurion because my boat surfs like hell. He has been looking at the Ri 217, the Air Nautique 230, and a variety of Master craft so far. He has a good history with the local Master craft dealer, thus he has been leaning that way. Our local Centurion, Supreme, Natique dealer also has a good reputation, Malibu is no longer all that local to us so it has been bumped out of the equation. He was hoping to stay under $120,000 Canadian, but the Ri 217 is definitely over that, but he is still considering making the jump to that model. He didn't like the supreme. He prefers more simple set up, aka computer screen pre sets. Any suggestions on what is the best choice these days?

Was testing our old homemade suck gate from last year on our SV 233. QF full, PnP full, pro ballast full, no bow weight, 2 people in the boat. We also have 90# of lead on each side. Had to dump a little weight out of the QF on the fly to bring the bow down a little, probably due to the extra lead. Wish we had an extra body or bag for the bow. Had a couple bags but we rarely use them so I forgot to grab the pump out of the rope bag we left in the truck. No cats, and still playing with the trim. Port side was a great wave, longer, flatter, more push. Bumped speed up to 11.4 - 11.6 mph. I'm 250# and can surf no problem on the Trident, with or without the suck gate, but definitely had more push with the gate. The wave is quite different, I really like the faster feel of the steeper listed wave, but think I could easily get used to the suck gate wave. We have a couple goofy riders as well, so quick change overs is nice. We don't have the A plate, so we just couldn't get the lip to clean up on the goofy side. Normally I can clean the listed goofy wave up with the port QF 2/3 full and 30% trim, but no luck with the suck gate. My son did like the extra push, and thought it was a better wave than our listed wave. Sorry no pics. Did take a couple vids, but the water was a bit choppy today so the vid doesn't do the wave justice.

When I was getting a new cover made for my boat, I had them add a flap on each side to cover up those vents. Had them add a couple snaps as well. You could look at adding some flaps to your existing cover and a couple snaps to the boat.

I have a 2012, so no cats, no surf gate, and no A plate at the moment. Port: both QF full, port PnP full, port pro under seats full, trim at 0 - 25. 90 lbs of lead tucked in both rear corners. No bow ballast. Usually 3 passengers sitting port side. Speed 11.2 - 11.4 mph. Goofy: Stbd QF full, Stbd PnP full, Stbd pro under seat full. Start off with Port QF full and start dumping when underway. Usually end up dumping around 25% to clean up the wave. Trim at Approx 45% again 90lbs lead each corner. Goofy also benefits heavily from additional weight in Starboard rear locker. Planning to add an additional 100# this summer. That is our current setup, port side is awesome, goofy is ok, but not as good as port. Still working on it. Planning on the A plate and additional lead to help out the goofy side.

I have noticed after experimenting with the counter balance theory, it only seems to work on calm days and calm water. If the water is a little rough, it seems to affect the wave negatively.

Need details on that SV 233 goofy wave set up. We have a great port wave, but still struggling on the goofy wave. Is he running the A plate? Weight? Using the "suckgate"? Any info is always good info. We are definitely planning on adding more weight to the goofy side this year, we took on some water through the starboard vent once at the end of last year and that totally beefed up the wave, so adding more lead weight is a priority this year, along with installing the Enzo vents I never got a chance to install last year.

My buddy may have to take me along for the demo as he isn't planning on doing anymore than drive the boat for his kids. His kids are new to wake surfing, so probably not good test subjects. I would be a heck of an experienced test subject at 250#. Whatever boat he looks at is going to have to have at least as good of a wave as my 233 to impress me and get me up surfing. A good test for any boat or salesmen looking to prove his boats capabilities.

I imagine they will be doing a little bit of wakeboarding and tubing, but mostly surfing. Like most of us that will probably slowly change over more to surfing as the time goes by. As mentioned he has an exceptional relationship with Martin Equipment, and they have him convinced that the Mastercraft X2 is a great surf boat.

Like Bongo, I'm running the SV 233. Same hull, just the cabin area has been pushed forward a foot making the bow area is a little smaller. That alone seems to change the factor on bow weight. 500 lb quick fill full on both sides, 750 in rear port locker, 650 under port seat. No bow ballast. I'm 245# and no issues surfing. Usually to people on the port side. At my weight, a proper board is key. Currently using a phase 5 trident or Drew. We have also started adding lead and currently have 90 lbs a side in the back corner of each rear locker. Took a great wave to new heights. The biggest factor for me in the whole surfing game was getting behind a dialed in boat to figure out what the wave was supposed to feel like, what it was supposed to look like, and how I was supposed to be positioned on the board. That helped me tremendously early on. Thanks goes out to Islander for the day on the water. Because of that, I would happily invite anyone in the Edmonton area that is having trouble to join us out on the water anytime, or get in touch with me and I can try and join you to help you get your boat sorted out. Once you get up surfing, while you are still holding the rope, fall back as far as you can in the wave, then start playing with your speed, you will find that happy speed where the wave all of a sudden takes over. Also remember, front foot placement on the board plays a huge factor. If your back leg is getting tired, odds are your front foot should be further forward. Have a great surfs up summer.

Thanks guys, great info. The 217 is probably close to $150 out the door, but I think he is leaning that way. Myself I would have been leaning more towards some of the used inventory popping up around here. There are a couple loaded up 2012 - 14 Centurion 230s and 233s kicking around with low hours in the $70 - 80 k range, but nothing with CATS. He is leaning towards new with a warranty the last I talked to him, but like everyone who hadn't looked at boats for a couple years he was a little surprised how much prices had jumped, but with our Canadian dollar in the toilet, that is the biggest factor.