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I installed them before last week's Powell trip. I also could not be happier. It's not silent but it's definitely better. I don't have to crank the speakers as much nor do I have to yell to speak.

I posted this on the CC FB page and will post it over at Wake World as well. I don't work for Liquid Lumens. This is purely a review about a product that I think is great. I hit Powell every year with friends that use underwater lights in the evenings for various purposes. Some are good/great (Lifeform, Lumitec, OceanLED, Shadowcaster etc...) and some aren't (drain plug lights and the cheapies off AliExpress). I've been jonesing for a set for several years but couldn't quite bring myself to pull the trigger. Two years ago at the Utah Boat Show I ran into a new company called Liquid Lumens. They had a new take on the underwater light that they state was industry leading. Their offerings at that time were a little more than I wanted to spend so I put off a purchase. Over the winter I'd decided to go with one of their competitors because of price but decided to wait until after the boat show to see what else was out there. I checked up on the Liquid Lumens guys while I was there and they convinced me to give their lights a whirl and gave me a boat show price that I considered a good value on their flagship Pipeline model. It didn't hurt that they were a local company. I picked up my lights at their facility and checked out some of the new things on which they are working. Cool stuff! The light install was easy. The instructions were simple and the wires and connections were easy to identify. They use a special external power supply to raise the voltage of the system. I was a little concerned that doing this might use too much power and cause issues with other accessories. That was not the case and everything worked great. The templates provided made installing the actual lights a breeze. I only got to test the lights out for one night while down at Powell last week but I was so stunned at the output that I forgot to take any pics or video. I either hung my head off the back of the boat marveling at their brightness or I drove around at surf and wakeboard speeds stunned at how far back they lit up the wake. Seriously, the effect was amazing. Several people watched from the top of the houseboat and they couldn't believe how great they were either. I'm convinced that the Pipeline's are as good of an underwater light as you will get and the extra dollars you spend to get them is worth it. Sorry I do not have pics or video, I'll rectify that next time I go back. I was so happy I just decided to write a blurb on my favorite wake boat sites anyway. One more thing about their customer service. I ordered a switch from my local Centurion dealer that fit in a spare slot and had to figure out how to wire it up so that it would light up like the other switches. This makes things a little more complex than wiring to a simple on/off switch. I called LL and they were willing to walk me through the process. In fact, they even offered to come by and help with that part of the wiring. Fortunately I figured it out and they didn't have to come over. I'm appreciate their willingness to go the extra mile.

The plot's going to get thicker. I've decided to add the LL above water light in blue.

This would be my guess as well. Same thing happened to me.

I posted this on the CC FB page and will post it over at Wake World as well. I don't work for Liquid Lumens. This is purely a review about a product that I think is great. I hit Powell every year with friends that use underwater lights in the evenings for various purposes. Some are good/great (Lifeform, Lumitec, OceanLED, Shadowcaster etc...) and some aren't (drain plug lights and the cheapies off AliExpress). I've been jonesing for a set for several years but couldn't quite bring myself to pull the trigger. Two years ago at the Utah Boat Show I ran into a new company called Liquid Lumens. They had a new take on the underwater light that they state was industry leading. Their offerings at that time were a little more than I wanted to spend so I put off a purchase. Over the winter I'd decided to go with one of their competitors because of price but decided to wait until after the boat show to see what else was out there. I checked up on the Liquid Lumens guys while I was there and they convinced me to give their lights a whirl and gave me a boat show price that I considered a good value on their flagship Pipeline model. It didn't hurt that they were a local company. I picked up my lights at their facility and checked out some of the new things on which they are working. Cool stuff! The light install was easy. The instructions were simple and the wires and connections were easy to identify. They use a special external power supply to raise the voltage of the system. I was a little concerned that doing this might use too much power and cause issues with other accessories. That was not the case and everything worked great. The templates provided made installing the actual lights a breeze. I only got to test the lights out for one night while down at Powell last week but I was so stunned at the output that I forgot to take any pics or video. I either hung my head off the back of the boat marveling at their brightness or I drove around at surf and wakeboard speeds stunned at how far back they lit up the wake. Seriously, the effect was amazing. Several people watched from the top of the houseboat and they couldn't believe how great they were either. I'm convinced that the Pipeline's are as good of an underwater light as you will get and the extra dollars you spend to get them is worth it. Sorry I do not have pics or video, I'll rectify that next time I go back. I was so happy I just decided to write a blurb on my favorite wake boat sites anyway. One more thing about their customer service. I ordered a switch from my local Centurion dealer that fit in a spare slot and had to figure out how to wire it up so that it would light up like the other switches. This makes things a little more complex than wiring to a simple on/off switch. I called LL and they were willing to walk me through the process. In fact, they even offered to come by and help with that part of the wiring. Fortunately I figured it out and they didn't have to come over. I'm appreciate their willingness to go the extra mile.

Spent some time there in March. I love that place!

Mine is coming. Been working on a prototype switching system.

Mine works fine on my Enzo. Make sure you're applying a bit of pressure right above the suction cup when you flip the lever. If the lever is easy to flip then it isn't locked.

Yes, I think they also changed the risers. It might have been the risers leaking instead of the manifolds.

Next time this happens I'd pull a spark plug, engage the starter, and see if any water comes out the plug hole. Repeat for the other plugs. Something similar happened to me and it turns out that one of my manifolds was leaking water into the cylinders. Changed the manifolds and the problem was gone.

How did it act when you were trying to start it?

Also check the ground wire at the engine.

I was told it's actually a micro-organism that causes this issue. Internet research backed that up. As to who's right.....who knows.

+1 on the Nauticurl.

I'd check the pulleys and belt.

It's been a while since we have addressed this subject. I have two Group 29 MAXx dual purpose batteries from Walmart. They are good for about a year and a half and their time is up. I'm debating on just getting a couple more wet batteries from one of their competitors or maybe a couple of Blue Top Optima dual purpose. So what are you guys using these days? Are people going for a cranking/deep cycle combination or going with two identical dual purpose batteries? What group (27,29,34) are you using? My batteries need to last for week long Powell trips. I don't do a lot of sitting around with the stereo cranked up (maybe an hour every so often) and I really haven't had a problem with battery depletion while down there.

It turns out that my cranking battery is fine. (Duracell going on its third season.) It's my accessories battery that looks like it has a bad cell. I'm going to replace it with a wet deep cycle and call it good. It looks like a lot of folks like Interstate so I'm going to try and fine one of those that fits the bill. If not another Duracell.

Call Sewlong in Utah.

There are two drain plugs. The T handle goes where your picture indicates and the other goes in the back of your boat. If you pull only one pull the one in the back of your boat.

Might be a while. I have a buddy that lives right on it. Love that lake.

Earlier in this thread I mentioned that I designed a plate based on a Centurion design that is currently on Supreme boats. They are not exactly the same but look similar. I didn't want to make Centurion mad by completely ripping off their design thus the changes. The brackets have two horizontal positions as well as five mounting holes for adjustment. I also lopped a few inches of the inside portion of the plate that is next to the boat. This makes mounting on narrow beam boats easier. My boat isn't ready yet so I tripped out to Lake Nacimiento in CA and put them on a buddies Malibu VTX. We wanted to see how they would work on a flatter bottom boat. We mounted them on a slight angle so that water gets diverted to the outside of the wake similar to what the water diversiion fins do on the GSA. Now the VTX is a 20ft crossover boat designed for skiing and wakeboarding. It isn't a great boat for either of those and it definitely isn't a good surf boat. However, these tabs made a huge difference and the thing was putting out a very respectable wave. The owner of the boat has a lot of experience with surf gates and he was shocked how well the tabs worked and the 1000 less RPMs vs surf gates. The owner brought the boat out to Utah to sell last weekend and he took some of my buddies out on Sand Hollow. The tabs got rave reviews. We may make a few additional sets if anyone wants them.

I use this followed by Finesse It II and then regular wax. https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-us/all-3m-products/~/3M-Marine-Rubbing-Compound/?N=5002385+8709375+8710663+8710721+3293083915&rt=rud

I would definitely change out the impeller on a newly purchased boat.

I would get a line where the sun would fade what wasn't covered by the cover. I used rubbing compound and a buffer to get it out. I believe I had the best results with 3m products.

Don't apologize it's just a personal opinion. I also don't think Enzo sacs are an advantage for surfing. I get almost as much weight between my two bags per side. I think the flexibility of two bags per side is also applicable to surfing.