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Someone might be able to confirm, but I think a new 238 would come with the a different tranny ratio than what i have, which should make the H6 more than adequate. I think mine is 1:1.42 and if memory serves me correct, they may have moved to 1:1.72. You will be fine with the 450/H6. Good luck with the purchase.

My lake is around 6000 ft as well. I don't have experience with the 409, but ive had a supposedly close to equivalent with the old Black Scorpion in a sv240 and we always had power issues. Additionally, my 2015 fs44 has the 450, and it kind of struggles when we have a big crew. I don't have quick surf, but if i did, i don't think the 450 at elevation could push it. I have upgraded my prop as well. I would spend for a bigger motor for sure if it were me...

I can't help on the 238 as i have never been on one but two thoughts. I can't help but think that any deep V hull that has 1100 pounds in the rear locker plus 580 or so under the seats should surf pretty dang well. For sure you will go wireless and be able to come close to landing 360's. I assume the 238 has quickfill plus some type of plug and play that gets close to this. Just another thought, if you are going to spend 80K, you could just get a one year old fs44 or fs33 for right around that price plus have ramfill and plug and play and that for sure surfs unbelievable out of the box. Even a one or two year old sv244 would be under 80K... Like i said, i just can't believe that a 238 doesn't surf comparable to an older sv240 which is what i had for years and all i had was bags in lockers and under seats and it was plenty of wave... Good luck

I actually like the hammerhead design and functionality, but my biggest complaint is that I take at least one roller into the bow every time out. We are super cautious when we turn etc and it still happens. We never submarined our old avy or SV 240. Part of me thinks that is the biggest reason they redesigned, as it is expensive to roll out a top cap for only 3 seasons... IMHO

Deerwood, for what it is worth, i have noticed that my 2015 fs44 does something similar but it only seems to happen when i turn the boat off at the end of the day and then turn the ignition key off without hitting the ignition button to power off the screens. If i hit the engine off button, then hit the ignition button to power down the computer and then turn the key off, it doesn't seem to happen...

Looks like the new 2017 lineup is on the website, only three boats.... RI 237, RI217 and carbon pro.

Can't speak to the PCM motor as i have an 08 with the 6.2 black scorpion in my sv240, but when we have that many people in the boat it takes at least 3 kids and 2 adults in the bow plus my bow sack full to get us on plane. Once we get above about 17 mph people can move back around as the speed can fluctuate freely. I know that the PCM is supposed to be a better motor, but i would imagine some similar issues, we boat in Utah around 5200 feet. My prop is the 1579

I noticed on Centurion's webpage the last two picture banners are two new boats, the ss210 and ss220, does anyone know what these are? Did they just rename the Avalanche and Elite or are these scaled down enzo's to 21 and 22 feet? Just curious...

I am sure someone else will chime in, but here is what i think i know. Elite V - A v-drive boat that is not a true deep v hull, more of a cross over that can wakeboard, ski and wakesurf. I believe it is 21 feet 96" wide Tornado - basically the same as an elite V, but it is a direct drive boat, so more for slalom. 96" wide Hurrican - Basically the pre-cusor to the avalanache, so 22 feet long v-drive. 100" wide If it were me for surfing, wakeboarding and then sking, i would purchase the Hurricane, Elite V and then the Tornado. I am sure i missed on something

Had a little accident today at the lake. My wife took the boat out by herself, which she has done before. All was going well until she got an unknown call from the dock... It was the sherrif telling her that a 16 your old girl hit our parked trailer, ripped off the back guide post, lights and damaged the tie down. Then, when she was putting the boat back on the trailer, the corner was bent up and due to the guide missing she didn't relaize she was off center and hit the prop on the trailer, doh! Long story short, i am gonna need a new prop as well as i get the pleasure of haggling with insurance for my trailer. Probably gonna try and get them to replace the prop as well for the causal relationship... I've got a 2008 enzo 240 and i have been running a 1579, i have FAE and while they say FAE doesn't rob power, i have noticed a little bit of a power drop, so my question... Is there something else i could jump up to, can i go with a 14 inch prop instead of the 13.5. Suggestions? I've got my eye on either the 13.5 1619 or i was thinking about the 14" 1617. Thoughts?

Thanks for the input, i will keep you posted on what i decide. I think i am going to stay with the 13.5 but I am leaning towards trying a five blade.

It doesn't have perfect pass either. Hossman, where are you located?

Is anyone towing with a Chevy Tahoe or a Toyota Sequoia? I've got a RAM 3500 that I will use for long distances, but I leave the ENZO 240 at my in-laws house and only need to tow the boat 10 miles on flat ground for normal trips but there would be the occasional trip home up and down a canyon. Anyone have any experience with these two SUV's? Thanks

How much you wanna spend? what about this one for $400 http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=30657506&cat=546&lpid=&search=surf&ad_cid=3

We have the smaller model and I would say that it is not a very good beginner board. It is fairly loose, although not as loose as an inland or phase 5, but it can get squirly. For me the biggest issue is that it is not a very fast board and it is hard for newer riders to go wireless on the ronix one, we have a 240 enzo with custom ballast, so wake size is not the issue. Perhaps the larger model can mitigate this, but the smaller board has some issues for riders below 165ish due to being a little loose and not as fast as other boards.

My guess would be that neither the fs44 nor the sv244 will fit in a 25 foot garage due to the wakeplate sticking out, i suppose you could notch the back wall to get them to fit with the wakeplate, but it would be really really tight. That means your only option is sv233 or the fs22, (they don't make the 230 anymore unless you find leftover invenotry) if those were the only two options, i would go with the 233 if it were me, a little bit bigger boat with a little bit more freeboard from what i know... JMTC

Fellas, My brother in law took delivery of his fx44 on Wednesday, yesterday he got a call from the dealer telling him that there is a recall on ALL Ramfill boats because the fill valves are failing and blowing holes in the hull. Major bummer, hope this is just an isolated incident. BTW, this is the reason that i decided to wait on the ramfill, i always hate buying first gen technology, either way really sucky for my bro in law and maybe for anyone else that has one. Hope Centurion figures it out. Anyone else have a recall?

I actualy love this one a little more. At 50 seconds and 1:56 are classic!

Have you checked Spark plugs and cap and rotor?

Ugh, that sucks Duane! Good luck.

Ok thanks. How does she handle the load? Do you know what the weight of your boat is? I've got a 240 enzo and im a little worried it might be a little too much...

Hey H, Nice looking camper and boat. I am thinking about doing the same thing, did you have to put air bags on the Dodge to help with squat for the truck camper?

Thanks for the info south shore and NW, definitely glad they got it figured out!

Centurionskier, I agree that it is cool that they are next daying valves at a significant cost and that Centurion is stepping up. I'll just agree to disagree on the remainder. I do think Centurion makes a great boat and wouldn't hesitate to buy a new one, i'll just buy year two that's all. Cheers

Agreed Kevin, seems they have it fixed. Maybe I'm off base here, but my problem isn't with the recall, recall's happen and it is part of being on the cutting edge, hats off to Centurion for doing something awesome. My problem is that a brand new boat was shipped late last week with the old system, which they knew had issue, and rather than just say hey, we've got a valve issue but we will fix it and in the meantime, if something does start to leak just shut if off and get to land, that didn't ever appear to be communicated. Again, maybe it is just me and I apoligize if i am out of line. I still beleive in the Centurion product, I just think that shipping a $100K boat, that was paid for on Wednesday, should atleast get you a heads up that there might be an issue. Atleast they are shipping part today, not sure if that is a coincidence or not. I've got a dodge RAM that has a front tie rod recall that they still hven't fixed, but atleast Dodge let me know about, that's all I am saying. Again, just my two cents, sorry for ruffling feathers.