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boatnut    230

I've never used one of those, but I am. Guessing it's similar to a cv joint clip, and those are pretty easy to put on :)

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Rhale    80

I have a crimp tool you can borrow

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chadr    328
I have a crimp tool you can borrow

Have you used them before? I may take you up on that but I have a friends Tige that we are going to do after mine. I may have it for a while. I will let you know.

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Dandy    43
I've never used one of those, but I am. Guessing it's similar to a cv joint clip, and those are pretty easy to put on :)

Spot on, pretty much just like a CV joint application. Easy to use and they work well. I did a fairly in depth (bag swap, added additional fill and drains along with a crossover pump) last spring on our previous boat. I used the crimp clamps everywhere that I had the correct size and they are hands down the way to go. Easy to use, quick installation and no sharp edges. I found clamps and tools in the lawn irrigation dept of a local home improvement store.

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chadr    328

I have a friend at work that does a bunch of electrical relay coordination. He is thinking through my switches for me. He is thinking that I may burn something up if I am filling and then one side is switched to pump out either accidentally or on purpose. I hadn't thought of that before. he thinks that if this happens, we may have to isolate the aerators to where they are the only pumps that pump out instead of the Jabsco's when this happens. I think I can deal with that though!

 

I am glad I talked to him about this because I hadn't thought about that before.

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volzalum    280

if you are wanting to drain with both the jabscos and aerator pumps, then you would need to use some more diodes and relays to ensure only the pumps and valves you want on/open at any given time are the correct ones. I recommend since you are using the valves that you fill with the jabscos and drain with the aerators. If you want the jabscos to speed up side changes then run 1 of them in a crossover configuration instead of using as a fill pump.

 

Though, I'm sure you can map out with two relays in series the way to isolate the individual jabscos in case you are filling some and draining others.

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chadr    328

Anyone have tips on how to get the hose up all the way on the Barbed fittings? Do I need to use heat gun to warm the hose? I am going to be hours on this if I don't figure out a faster way!

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boatnut    230

Use a little Vaseline or soap , but should not be stupid hard

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volzalum    280

I always used hair spray. It was slippery when wet and had some adhesion when dry.

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boatnut    230
I always used hair spray. It was slippery when wet and had some adhesion when dry.

Yup that too, great for handlebar grips

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chadr    328

Just found this! Heat gun!

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chadr    328

Anyone know of a decent buy on check valves? They are pricy!!! Wakemakers brand are $16 each!

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surf moocher    127

Just found this! Heat gun!

 

Yep, that's what I used, heat guns rule, just don't set it down on your vinyl after your done :p

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boatnut    230

 

Just found this! Heat gun!

 

 

 

Yep, that's what I used, heat guns rule, just don't set it down on your vinyl after your done :p

Ouch!!!!

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Bigcatpt    408

Heat gun and a little dish soap.

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BHenson    3

Guys, I don't understand something here? With the sprinkler head system, each tank has its own discharge pump to empty each tank, or bag. Why not just add a separate aerator pump to fill for each sack? Thats how I did mine and I love it. I have 7 sacks total including the 2 bow sacks. I used a 1100 gph piranha pumps. 1 for the 2 bow sacks, which already had 2 factory discharge pumps. And 5 1100 gph piranha pumps for the 5 sacks I have in the main boat. Only added 1 extra switch. Works fast. Heck the pumps are only $54.00. Not sure why the complication of this install? Tell me what I am missing here?

 

BTW use the sprinkler head wiring to operate the relays for each pump.

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volzalum    280

The typical aerator pump has to be placed lower in the boat than the impeller pumps. Additionally, the aerator pumps allow water to drain back through them. The use of the relays, pumps, and valves allows switch control to combine multiple fill,pumps to speed up the process.

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chadr    328

Guys, I don't understand something here? With the sprinkler head system, each tank has its own discharge pump to empty each tank, or bag. Why not just add a separate aerator pump to fill for each sack? Thats how I did mine and I love it. I have 7 sacks total including the 2 bow sacks. I used a 1100 gph piranha pumps. 1 for the 2 bow sacks, which already had 2 factory discharge pumps. And 5 1100 gph piranha pumps for the 5 sacks I have in the main boat. Only added 1 extra switch. Works fast. Heck the pumps are only $54.00. Not sure why the complication of this install? Tell me what I am missing here?

 

BTW use the sprinkler head wiring to operate the relays for each pump.

The main reason that I am working it this way is that I am able to utilize the pumps that are already in my boat and don't have to buy new!

 

My main goal is to eliminate the restrictions of the existing sprinkler valves and install the ball valves in their place with a more free flowing system that utilizes both pumps at once to fill. I don't want to completely redesign the system because I actually think it has potential. I just think they didn't think of the surfing becoming this big in 2008 when my boat was built.

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BHenson    3

The main reason that I am working it this way is that I am able to utilize the pumps that are already in my boat and don't have to buy new!

 

My main goal is to eliminate the restrictions of the existing sprinkler valves and install the ball valves in their place with a more free flowing system that utilizes both pumps at once to fill. I don't want to completely redesign the system because I actually think it has potential. I just think they didn't think of the surfing becoming this big in 2008 when my boat was built.

OK, just didn't quite understand. Like I said, I put the 1100 gph pumps in and it fills in less than 10 minutes, and the pumps cost the same as those valves. It was pretty simple. But good luck with it. Hope it works out for you. Looks like a cool idea.

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N8 Froelich    12

Hey Chadr,

I've got an 11' Enzo and it's a new boat to us so I'm pretty reluctant to tear up the factory wiring, especially because I believe the current system is powered by a sealed power module. That said the sprinkler valves are a pretty big restriction to the speed of the system. Based on all my research I had not seen a valve like you've found here and neither had others in similar threads. They were either 110V or they weren't NC, or they cost about $200 each, or they were the size of a grapefruit. Is this a new find based on your experience?

 

In your opinion would these make a good direct replacement for the sprinkler valves? I see the chatter about the relays but I'm thinking that is because you're doing additional pumps and going multi-directional. I'd just be sticking with the with the single pump and stock wiring. I'm guessing these valves need a constant power, and a dedicated ground to charge the capacitor and then the valve is controlled by closing to ground?

 

I'm really just looking for small time gains and more reliability over the sprinkler valves.

 

Thanks if you have time.

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