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grillz    1

So I have been looking around and it seems like if surfing is the primary goal, it is best to replace whatever factory ballast there is with large sacs. In my case I think I'll throw in an enzo sac in the port side and keep the factory ballast on the starboard or throw in a small 400lbs sac. The boat I'm looking at has just the two factory midship tanks (no 400lbs bow tank). I'm pretty sure that setup will deliver a good wake, but I've been looking around for some time and many people stress the addition of bow ballast to lengthen the pocket. The main questions I have are:

 

1) Is bow ballast useful in creating a nice surf wake behind an enzo sv230?

2) If so, how easy (and expensive) would it be to plumb a sac where the factory one would have been?

3) I'm not very useful at mechanics; could I get a dealer to plumb them in and install larger pumps at a reasonable price?

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Nick213    586

My dealer would not plumb I added ballast due to weight liability maybe yours will though

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Dreamer    92

You do not need bow ballast to surf the regular side of the sv230. Get as much weight as possible in the locker and up that side. Then you can add a few hundreds pounds of counter weight behind the driver seat.

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carzin    10

You know, I had a quandry with my just ordered SV233. The surf package does not include the bow ballast. Both the factory rep and sales rep told me it was not necessary, and added little to nothing to the wake surfing wave, on top of it being an $800 option. I asked the guy who owns a 2012 Enzo SV244 and runs a wake surfing school. He told me that I made the right choice not ordering the ballast, as he doesn't run forward ballast in his optimum setup.

 

Still on the fence if I shouldnt call the dealer and add it. Really hate having to pump up sacks, and I'll be kicking myself later if I have to do that.

 

I have emailed Inland Surfer, and I'll pass on their response.

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DrNate    426

You don't need bow ballast for surfing. Trust me. I have it on mine and I NEVER use it.

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Dreamer    92

I pulled the tanks and added a custom 1850# enzo sac on the port side and a 350# sac under the seat behind the driver. Driver and spotter only. No lead in boat, no sacs on the seat or platform and no bow ballast.

 

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Dreamer    92

and I sealed up the port side vent holes with hockey pucks.

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carzin    10

Just spoke with Jeff Page (Inland Surfer is the best guys, if you don't own one of their boards, you should) with Inland Surfer. In short, he doesn't run bow ballast. He says the most important thing to getting a clean wave is adjusting the rudder trim. He says he adjusts the trim about 1/4" in the opposite direction they are surfing, and states it makes a big difference. I haven't seen the rudder trim, so I don't know how you adjust it. He said that Kenan has a goofy boat, and that Kenan likes a little weight on front, even with the goofy setup, but I got the feeling still that it wasn't entirely necessary.

 

I consider them an authority on this, so I'll leave it at that :)

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carzin    10

I have to come clean. With all this talk about 'to have or not to have front ballast', I finally said screw it, and called my dealer to add it. While I am fairly confident I don't need it, I will be so pissed if I have to fill up manual bags in the front. Just decided the $800 saved wasn't worth it.

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grillz    1

Thanks carzin and dreamer for the advice! Drove 16 hours today to look at a boat to find out it has crazy condensation problems. No heated storage -_- Not a happy camper.

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RhuntIII    557

Thanks carzin and dreamer for the advice! Drove 16 hours today to look at a boat to find out it has crazy condensation problems. No heated storage -_- Not a happy camper.

What does this mean, condensation problems, no heated storage?

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Bongo Fury    641

I have to come clean. With all this talk about 'to have or not to have front ballast', I finally said screw it, and called my dealer to add it. While I am fairly confident I don't need it, I will be so pissed if I have to fill up manual bags in the front. Just decided the $800 saved wasn't worth it.

 

I think you did the right thing.....I would have ordered it. Boat like that.....why not!

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I know that most do not use Bow Ballast, however, I had FB messaged Keenan this past summer to ask how he weights his boat because the wake always look great in his videos. My friend had just purchased a 244 GOOFY so we wanted some help getting it dialed in. This is a screen shot of how Keenan weighs his boat.

 

So Carzin because you have a GOOFY boat I think you did the right thing to order the bow ballast, because if the world champ weighs his exact same boat that way then... :thumbsup:

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carzin    10

Awesome. I appreciate all the help! I feel pretty good about my decision.

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duramat    464

 

Awesome. I appreciate all the help! I feel pretty good about my decision.

I expect to see video of you throwing down the same moves this season! :thumbsup:

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carzin    10

We'll see :) I'll be thrilled if I can land an aerial 360. That is my goal for the summer. My wife wants to land a shove-it ;)

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WakeDoc    488

We are on our second SV240, current it 2010, about the only time we use bow ballast is when we have a big crew and everyone wants to sit in the back of the boat, fill the bow to counter the extra crew in the back of the boat. If the lakes gets real rough during the day we will fill the bow and center tank for some added weight to make a smoother ride in rough water. The next time we have the boat out and loaded for surfing I will try to remember to take pics without bow or center, with center, no bow and with center and bow.

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grillz    1

@Rhuntlll The owner must have tarped his boat while there was a considerable amount of moisture/water in it. The vinyl had gross spotting all over it, the carpet was damp and even wet in some spots. Also, there was mold everywhere. It was in all of the carpeted storage areas and even in the engine compartment. The speakers were covered in condensation and doubt they would work. Wouldn't be surprised if it need all new upholstery and new stereo. Sad to see one of these boats in that kind of condition.

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RhuntIII    557

@Rhuntlll The owner must have tarped his boat while there was a considerable amount of moisture/water in it. The vinyl had gross spotting all over it, the carpet was damp and even wet in some spots. Also, there was mold everywhere. It was in all of the carpeted storage areas and even in the engine compartment. The speakers were covered in condensation and doubt they would work. Wouldn't be surprised if it need all new upholstery and new stereo. Sad to see one of these boats in that kind of condition.

Wow. So was it the first time the seller saw the inside of the boat?

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grillz    1

I guess he put it away in the fall and that's when he took his pictures. Untarped it 10 minutes before we got there and found that mess.

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RhuntIII    557

I have to come clean. With all this talk about 'to have or not to have front ballast', I finally said screw it, and called my dealer to add it. While I am fairly confident I don't need it, I will be so pissed if I have to fill up manual bags in the front. Just decided the $800 saved wasn't worth it.

Carzin, I think you made the right choice. It's always better to have than have not.

 

We are on our second SV240, current it 2010, about the only time we use bow ballast is when we have a big crew and everyone wants to sit in the back of the boat, fill the bow to counter the extra crew in the back of the boat. If the lakes gets real rough during the day we will fill the bow and center tank for some added weight to make a smoother ride in rough water. The next time we have the boat out and loaded for surfing I will try to remember to take pics without bow or center, with center, no bow and with center and bow.

Doesn't the bow weight in the rough water bring the nose down? Does this make for a dryer ride?

 

I guess he put it away in the fall and that's when he took his pictures. Untarped it 10 minutes before we got there and found that mess.

What was his expression like when you showed up?

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grillz    1

He was pretty gutted, but didn't seem overly devastated about it.

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WakeDoc    488

Deep V rides deeper in the water less bow rise, smother ride, at least for us.

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Kalidgh    37

I remember my dad putting our Larsen away for winter once. Put the canvas on, tied a tarp over it, and parked it in the driveway ( we live in BC...lots of snow and moisture)

 

The interior looked like a 8 month old block of cheese in the spring. Disgusting. Used VIM to get it clean....then sold it!!

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