'19 ZS232

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On 1/26/2021 at 7:56 PM, Troy. R said:

My 2 cents, the “plunger” requires no modification and works just fine.

Agreed. That's what I used on my last boat. Easy. Sure wish this "freeze" would hurry up and start/finish. I want to get her out!!!

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On 1/27/2021 at 8:09 PM, Schnboo said:

Agreed. That's what I used on my last boat. Easy. Sure wish this "freeze" would hurry up and start/finish. I want to get her out!!!

I just talked my younger brother and brother-in-law into buying wetsuits so hopefully we can get out in the next few weeks.
Winter surfing is the best! You have the lake to yourself. Now, in saying that I have admittedly only ever lived in CA and AZ...

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On 1/29/2021 at 2:12 PM, Troy. R said:

I just talked my younger brother and brother-in-law into buying wetsuits so hopefully we can get out in the next few weeks.
Winter surfing is the best! You have the lake to yourself. Now, in saying that I have admittedly only ever lived in CA and AZ...

When I had my last boat (02 Pro V) I would tow to the lake when there was snow on the ground. We all have drysuits. And that's likely what I'll be in until it gets warm enough to switch to a 3/2 wetsuit. I picked up a used Soulcraft Kenen Flegel board and a Doomswell Bandwagon. I'm chompin at the bit now!!!

Went to home depot today to buy the parts for the fake a lake and when I got all the pieces together it was over the price on Amazon so I just ordered the Amazon one. Covid has everything jacked up!! Prices have gone up with everything!!

 

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2 minutes ago, Schnboo said:

When I had my last boat (02 Pro V) I would tow to the lake when there was snow on the ground. We all have drysuits. And that's likely what I'll be in until it gets warm enough to switch to a 3/2 wetsuit. I picked up a used Soulcraft Kenen Flegel board and a Doomswell Bandwagon. I'm chompin at the bit now!!!

Went to home depot today to buy the parts for the fake a lake andwhen I got all the pieces together it was over the price on Amazon so I just ordered the Amazon one. Covid has everything jacked up!! Prices have gone up with everything!!

 

I used to be a military brat. My dad was Navy so I've been all over but did live in California for about 10 years. Some in San Fran area (Mare Island) then San Diego. Moved to Washington in 89 and have been here ever since.

 

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12 hours ago, Schnboo said:

When I had my last boat (02 Pro V) I would tow to the lake when there was snow on the ground. We all have drysuits. And that's likely what I'll be in until it gets warm enough to switch to a 3/2 wetsuit. I picked up a used Soulcraft Kenen Flegel board and a Doomswell Bandwagon. I'm chompin at the bit now!!!

Went to home depot today to buy the parts for the fake a lake and when I got all the pieces together it was over the price on Amazon so I just ordered the Amazon one. Covid has everything jacked up!! Prices have gone up with everything!!

 

Yeah, I was talking to my brother-in-law in Tennessee the other day. He’s doing a 1200 sq/ft addition on his house and he say material is sky high right now.

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12 hours ago, Schnboo said:

I used to be a military brat. My dad was Navy so I've been all over but did live in California for about 10 years. Some in San Fran area (Mare Island) then San Diego. Moved to Washington in 89 and have been here ever since.

 

I was in the Central Valley about 90 miles east of SF. Actually, about 35 miles north of the Centurion/Supreme plant. We did a tour when we had our Avalanche. Really cool if you are ever down that way and they start allowing tours again. My son and I drove back for a wedding during the summer. I called to see if we could do a tour and they weren’t doing them because of COVID.

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@Schnboo let me know what you think of those boards. I’m in the market for a new surf style board, but don’t know which way to go. Back in CA, there was a great board shop right on the delta with a launch right behind them that rented boards. We would go test boards, figure out which we preferred, then buy. I’m not aware of anything like that here in AZ.

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2 hours ago, Troy. R said:

@Schnboo let me know what you think of those boards. I’m in the market for a new surf style board, but don’t know which way to go. Back in CA, there was a great board shop right on the delta with a launch right behind them that rented boards. We would go test boards, figure out which we preferred, then buy. I’m not aware of anything like that here in AZ.

That would be cool to take a look at how the boats are built. I know Supreme has bought another place back east somewhere and Centurion will stay in the Merced plant. I'll let you know for sure. I'm actually new to surfing in a sense. I was more into wakeboarding for quite a while but an invert left me with a blown ear drum and now I'm in hearing aids full time. I do surf and am ok at it (starting to spin 3's but not consistent) but I was more into wakeboarding. The only decent board I had was a skim style Inland Surfer Black Pearl. So I figured that now that I have a purpose built surf boat I might as well get a couple surf style boards to help me progress. I just wish I would have gotten into wakesports a lot younger. April I'll be 48. When you don't ride away from an invert it hurts a bit more....

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1 minute ago, Schnboo said:

That would be cool to take a look at how the boats are built. I know Supreme has bought another place back east somewhere and Centurion will stay in the Merced plant. I'll let you know for sure. I'm actually new to surfing in a sense. I was more into wakeboarding for quite a while but an invert left me with a blown ear drum and now I'm in hearing aids full time. I do surf and am ok at it (starting to spin 3's but not consistent) but I was more into wakeboarding. The only decent board I had was a skim style Inland Surfer Black Pearl. So I figured that now that I have a purpose built surf boat I might as well get a couple surf style boards to help me progress. I just wish I would have gotten into wakesports a lot younger. April I'll be 48. When you don't ride away from an invert it hurts a bit more....

I've got a buddy that I always see on the lake that is good friends with Jeff from Soulcraft and that's why I bought one. The dude has probably 17 of em. He and his wife are actually gonna be in Arizona next week. They've got a friend that has a boat that they're going out in to surf while they're there. He and his wife do a lot of the comps. I believe he's on here too but probably uses the FB page more. 

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@Schnboo I hear you on wakeboard being a young man’s game. I quit wakeboarding when I jacked my knee up a few years back. I was never that good anyway. I could do some surface tricks and clear the wake. That was about it. I turned 40 this past October.

My 14 year old son was totally focused on surfing last year, but wants to try wakeboarding this season.

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2 hours ago, Troy. R said:

@Schnboo I hear you on wakeboard being a young man’s game. I quit wakeboarding when I jacked my knee up a few years back. I was never that good anyway. I could do some surface tricks and clear the wake. That was about it. I turned 40 this past October.

My 14 year old son was totally focused on surfing last year, but wants to try wakeboarding this season.

That's awesome that your son is even into any of it. My two kids now 23 and 18 never got into either. 1 bad experience on a tube when they were ittle ruined it. I had this huge tube that when you were going slow it would sometimes try to dive the front underwater. Well that happened and I stopped but they had already slid into the water over the front of the tube and then the tube went over them. So I had to run and dive off the back of the boat to retreieve them from under the tube. So since then I couldn't get them on a board. In fact my son (23) doesn't even care to be on the water. It sucks. But hey, love them for who they are and not for who you want them to be right?

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@Schnboo I get that. My 12 year old son doesn’t care for boating either. At least the 14 year old and my 7 year old daughter are into it. Football and baseball are the things I do with the 12 year old...

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@Troy I got the boat out finally!! Got her out last Saturday. We were going to play with the settings and go with recommended settings from others that have posted on the FB page but when we got out there we were like F#ck it!! Let's ride!! Water was 44 degrees with air temps around 48. So it was a lil chilly. 

 

 

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Nice!

wave looked great! What setup were you running?

by the way, the guy in the shorty spring suit is a brave man!

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19 hours ago, Troy. R said:

Nice!

wave looked great! What setup were you running?

by the way, the guy in the shorty spring suit is a brave man!

Troy to be honest, we changed it several times but the baseline setup was 500 in lead bags on the surf side, 100% factory ballast 70% on the surf tab and I beleive it was 50%-70% on the stinger. There three of us at about 180-190lbs a 13 yr old that I dunno was probably 90-100lbs(?) and the dude in the red suit who is 6'-4"  probably 270-290 ( I don't even know). The dude in the wetsuit does cold water immersion because of the health benefits. But yeah he crazy! Waiting for some dry weather to get it out again and then I'll pay better attention to the setup. I wasn't eing a "Weight Nazi' either, people were sitting wherever and it still threw a nasty wake! I was just excited to get her out. I want to see if I can play with the lead and make the wake longer. Like maybe put a little more nose weight in to maximize the range of the stinger. We'll see.

 

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1 hour ago, Schnboo said:

Troy to be honest, we changed it several times but the baseline setup was 500 in lead bags on the surf side, 100% factory ballast 70% on the surf tab and I beleive it was 50%-70% on the stinger. There three of us at about 180-190lbs a 13 yr old that I dunno was probably 90-100lbs(?) and the dude in the red suit who is 6'-4"  probably 270-290 ( I don't even know). The dude in the wetsuit does cold water immersion because of the health benefits. But yeah he crazy! Waiting for some dry weather to get it out again and then I'll pay better attention to the setup. I wasn't eing a "Weight Nazi' either, people were sitting wherever and it still threw a nasty wake! I was just excited to get her out. I want to see if I can play with the lead and make the wake longer. Like maybe put a little more nose weight in to maximize the range of the stinger. We'll see.

 

Nice. I haven’t tried lead. In general I prefer not to use lead just because it’s always there whether your cruise, trailering, whatever. To get a similar effect, I drain about 10% out of the non-surf side.

I actually do the cold dunk each morning too. I sit in the sauna for about 30 min then jump straight in the pool. I only stay in as long as it takes to control my breathing though.

Boat looks great too by the way!

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14 hours ago, Troy. R said:

Nice. I haven’t tried lead. In general I prefer not to use lead just because it’s always there whether your cruise, trailering, whatever. To get a similar effect, I drain about 10% out of the non-surf side.

I actually do the cold dunk each morning too. I sit in the sauna for about 30 min then jump straight in the pool. I only stay in as long as it takes to control my breathing though.

Boat looks great too by the way!

The only reason I do lead is habit. Back in the day when I had my last boat and with my buddy's Tige, we always ran weight thinking it would help with inverted tricks. It did but it also contributed to me blowin out my knee. And now with these surf boats having all this weight from the factory I figured whats a little more? There seems to be a lot of talk about the ZS being a weight sensitive boat and that the added weight helps to offset that. I don't really know yet. I'm hoping to get out Wednesday. I took the day off so I can take the wife to an appointment. So I'm hoping before the appointment to get out. I'll actually pay attention to setup this time and report back. 

As far as the cold water thing goes, I'm good on that. Maybe as I transition out of the drysuit into boardshorts. That will be my exposure period. Thanks for the good words on the boat! I'm in love with it so far. I've got the 409 motor and it seemed to do fine. I'm excited for summer!!!

 

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1 hour ago, Schnboo said:

The only reason I do lead is habit. Back in the day when I had my last boat and with my buddy's Tige, we always ran weight thinking it would help with inverted tricks. It did but it also contributed to me blowin out my knee. And now with these surf boats having all this weight from the factory I figured whats a little more? There seems to be a lot of talk about the ZS being a weight sensitive boat and that the added weight helps to offset that. I don't really know yet. I'm hoping to get out Wednesday. I took the day off so I can take the wife to an appointment. So I'm hoping before the appointment to get out. I'll actually pay attention to setup this time and report back. 

As far as the cold water thing goes, I'm good on that. Maybe as I transition out of the drysuit into boardshorts. That will be my exposure period. Thanks for the good words on the boat! I'm in love with it so far. I've got the 409 motor and it seemed to do fine. I'm excited for summer!!!

 

That’s awesome man, I’m stoked for you. I feel the same about my boat. I never thought of the aspect of the lead offsetting the human ballast. That might be worth it’s weight in gold! My wife HATES being told where to sit. I guess I could throw it forward of the axle in the bed of the truck when I am towing. Your wave was $ in the later shots of your video.

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7 hours ago, Troy. R said:

That’s awesome man, I’m stoked for you. I feel the same about my boat. I never thought of the aspect of the lead offsetting the human ballast. That might be worth it’s weight in gold! My wife HATES being told where to sit. I guess I could throw it forward of the axle in the bed of the truck when I am towing. Your wave was $ in the later shots of your video.

7 hours ago, Troy. R said:

That’s awesome man, I’m stoked for you. I feel the same about my boat. I never thought of the aspect of the lead offsetting the human ballast. That might be worth it’s weight in gold! My wife HATES being told where to sit. I guess I could throw it forward of the axle in the bed of the truck when I am towing. Your wave was $ in the later shots of your video.

23 hours ago, Troy. R said:

Nice. I haven’t tried lead. In general I prefer not to use lead just because it’s always there whether your cruise, trailering, whatever. To get a similar effect, I drain about 10% out of the non-surf side.

I actually do the cold dunk each morning too. I sit in the sauna for about 30 min then jump straight in the pool. I only stay in as long as it takes to control my breathing though.

Boat looks great too by the way!

The only reason I do lead is habit. Back in the day when I had my last boat and with my buddy's Tige, we always ran weight thinking it would help with inverted tricks. It did but it also contributed to me blowin out my knee. And now with these surf boats having all this weight from the factory I figured whats a little more? There seems to be a lot of talk about the ZS being a weight sensitive boat and that the added weight helps to offset that. I don't really know yet. I'm hoping to get out Wednesday. I took the day off so I can take the wife to an appointment. So I'm hoping before the appointment to get out. I'll actually pay attention to setup this time and report back. 

As far as the cold water thing goes, I'm good on that. Maybe as I transition out of the drysuit into boardshorts. That will be my exposure period. Thanks for the good words on the boat! I'm in love with it so far. I've got the 409 motor and it seemed to do fine. I'm excited for summer

 

Troy I didn't intentionally use the lead to offset people weight but in the video where my brother is surfingwas used to teoing with the goofy side, everyone but me is on the port side. So it worked in that scenario. As far as towing with the weight goes, I guess I don't see 500 as a lot of weight considering how these boats are built. I wouldn't tow with more than that but I fee like 500 is ok. When I'm done and ready to hang it up I just evenly distribute the weight to both driver and passenger sides. Almost right in line with the tower. Basically right over the axles where the the boat bears fully on the trailer bunks. 

Oh and by the way, you were asking about the two boards I got. They both are surf style boards (Doomswell Bandwagon 4'-8" and Soulcraft Keenan Flegel 4'-6") that track like a MF! I would say I fall in between a novice and intermediate but these boards are fast and track very tight. I feel like I would have to ollie the boards to get the rear fins to cut loose. Very responsive boards and I hope I can grow into them. The jury is still out on them. I'm gonna have to let you know after a couple times out.

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@Schnboo I’m leaning toward buying a Doomswell. Either a Neo or Nubstep. I’ll let you know how it feels when I finally do.