Quickfill Valves

[Kiwi042 4]

I am tired of replacing/maintaining the drainmaster QF valves, although I have got really good at removing and installing them.  Is this the upgraded version?  

Valterra EZ Valve Electric Waste Valve for RV Black Water Tank - 3" Hub to 3" Hub  Item # E

 

[Cdifranco 463]

Yes.   I have been a huge advocate for throwing the drain master valves in the trash immediately since day 1.

[Kiwi042 4]

I went ahead and changed them out with the Valterra ones.  What an improvement, and something i should have done years ago.  I did have to use the flanges from the drainmaster valves because the ones that came with the Valterra ones were too big.  I also have to make something to protect the valve from pushing against the fat sac in the locker.

[creimer 0]

Where did you get your valves and what did they cost if you don't mind me asking? My driver side valve sticks opened a majority of the time and haven't found a fix for it. Was just going to replace it if it's not too expensive.

[Cdifranco 463]

https://www.amazon.com/Valterra-E1003VP-Valve-Electric-System/dp/B004RCXC1G

 

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[bomoseen avy 45]

I have a 2013 SV230+ with quick fill. Looking to swap drainmasters for these and was reading Rhunt's mod with interest. Not sure what you meant by

On 6/6/2019 at 7:41 AM, Kiwi042 said:

I did have to use the flanges from the drainmaster valves because the ones that came with the Valterra ones were too big.  I also have to make something to protect the valve from pushing against the fat sac in the locker.

It sounds like you're referring to something other than the silicone hose coupling he used? Any info or experience would be appreciated. Would love to hear if others that swapped used his hose or solved the issue another way...

[bomoseen avy 45]

also wondering if mounting position tilted towards the engine compartment solves the fat sac issue

[Cdifranco 463]

11 hours ago, bomoseen avy said:

also wondering if mounting position tilted towards the engine compartment solves the fat sac issue

It does.  I mounted mine at an angel after noticing that.  I don't have it off hand but I posted a video of it a while back on here

[bomoseen avy 45]

reading past posts I am a little concerned as Bongo Fury had some issues with the Valterra fit and went back to Drainmaster units. His year is same as mine (2013) but  Rhunt's is 2014 so not totally sure if same dimensions in the transom.  If Rhunt is happy with his install I would gladly go his route.

 

Not sure if the SV 211 install is apples to apples re: the hose connectors. Assuming you used the existing hardware although I know it was a few years back. Thanks for your help

[InfinitySurf 302]

When I was sent the Valterra valves under warranty to replace Drainmasters in my 2014....I was also sent some new hoses and some hardware (looks similar to factory, perhaps just slightly different length due to fitment differences between the 2) so you may need a few things. I know the wiring is a little different as well, but can be made to work. Think its 3-wire compared to 2-wire on Valterra

I have not yet installed mine since by lubing up the Drainmaster valves every couple outings as well as not going over 14mph when opening/filling/closing the valves on my Ramfill , I have not had issues and decided to stay with my factory ones till I have issues I cannot resolve.

I know you have QuickFill compared to Ramfill. Basically the same concept except QF is only located in rear rather than front & rear on Ramfill.

 

This is probably the thread @Cdifranco was referring to:

 

[bomoseen avy 45]

Thanks Infinity! Yes I've seen that post and great video! WETSU's boat is actually my boat now since I purchased from Steve a couple summers ago. I actually thought at the time I bought it that he had switched out to Valterra's but that was my mistake as coming from my prior Avy I really wasn't aware of the valve issues with QF.

Also kicking myself for not reading up on them until now. No idea I should be lubricating them  I'm also not aware if I have a trailer mode. I am like Bongo and fortunate to live on the lake so I keep her on a lift. Guess I might want to open them before I turn the battery off for the night?

Not sure what boat Kiwi042 has. Looking at Cdifranco's and Rhunt's pics I'm guessing I will run into the need for longer coupling hose. I will likely go the route of Rhunt as he always does such quality work and seemed genuinely pleased with no report of his boat sinking due to hose failure. I can only find 3 foot sections of the Flexfab online so I guess I'll have a bit extra lying around if anyone needs some...

 

 

[InfinitySurf 302]

Not sure if you have a trailer mode for QuickFill, may not since you can open/close them with boat stationary. With Ramfill gates, you have to be going like 10mph+ for them to open/close so you need the trailer mode to open them on the trailer when not moving. I use the trailer mode to open mine as soon as I pull the boat out of water.

I have had great luck with my gates by lubing them every other outing (I found a can of WD40 Specialist lube at WalMart, called "spray and stay gel lubricant"), it has some water resistance and because it comes out as a sticky gel like substance, it sticks to the gates really well as I open/close them a couple times to lubricate and then leave them open till next time I drop in the water (note, on my boat as soon as you key up the ignition, it automatically cycles the Ramfill gates and closes them, not sure if QuickFill does the same)....Leaving the valves open when on trailer seems to keep the seals around the gates lubed and in better shape, seems like they dry out if left closes all the time and people have more issues with them.

Edited July 11, 2019 by InfinitySurf

[bomoseen avy 45]

excellent. Thanks 

[Kiwi042 4]

Sorry i haven't been checking on this thread.  I have the 2012 233.  I got tired of lubricating them several times a season and still would get an issue now and then.  The new valves have been great.  Unfortunately the way my boat is constructed (and with the engine divider) the valves pretty much have to sit upright.  I know the old valves had to sit upright according to their instructions.

[bomoseen avy 45]

Thanks Kiwi, no problem.

I was a little concerned about Bongo's description of fit issues, so I grabbed a new valve from drain master. Boat just turned 500 hours and I believe this is the third valve on that side. Lower profile valve than previous without the manual plunger section. Existing hose worked but not a lot of extra room. All in all pretty easy swap. I know what you mean by "flanges" now. I mounted it tilted toward the engine compartment but no issue at all with locker bags. Same red key from hell. I can show pics if anyone interested.