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toothdoc    0

I have a 2008 Centurion Lighting C4 with both side and center ballast and this is the first year switching from Wakeboard to Wake Surfing.  Except for my lightweight daughter, none of the rest of us can drop the rope.  We just slide backwards through the wake.  I'm thinking the wake is not big enough or steep enough, but it could also just be not knowing what we are doing.  Any recommendations of wake shapers, or suggestions on what we are doing wrong?

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dreikorncr    7

A number of factors could play into your current situation. The board you are riding could be the culprit. The board that is fitting for your lightweight daughter will more than likely not be the most suitable board for an adult. Wake shapers are great in my opinion! I'm a fan of them and there are a ton on the market. I've used a Mission Delta on an Avalanche, a SV233, and even a older nautique 210 with good outcomes. Different boats put out different waves and the "push" of the wave will differ, but with the right equipment, every boat is surfable. I also can argue that the shape is more important than the size, but thats a discussion for another day. If you just have the stock ballast hard tanks, replace them with larger fat sacs. Add more weight, grab the right board for your size, and I can almost guarantee you will be throwing rope in no time. 

 

Also, welcome to the site and congrats on owning a Centurion!

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rhino89523    29

I'm a big boy and it took me a minute to figure it out...and I have been ocean surfing since I can remember so like 40+ years. The board makes a difference, I can surf a red rocket inland surfer behind most anything, but the board is so locked in I don't always love it. I can also surf one of those hyperlite landlocks pretty easy and it is a little looser. get a board for your size if you don't already have one as suggested above. I like the surfgate deal because I am goofy and many of my friends are regular....mine is just a homemade for like $25 out of a cutting board, a suction cup glass handler, and a couple shelf brackets, I put a leash on it too. It works well and I was unable to ride ropeless even with my boat pretty heavily listed until I attached this thing. Now we weight evenly and just swap the ghetto gate. I think the biggest thing was technique and finding the wave...it's like a different angle than you think and for me I pretty much have to pump, if I just try to stand there the boat has to be going so slow, the wall is then huge but the pocket so short that really it is quite boring. I'd go with a gate, get a bigger board and just keep experimenting.

I tried a surfboard that I surf with and still couldn't catch the wave. My surfboard had too much rocker so it didn't plane out right, wakesurfers are really flat with just a rock up at the nose. I'm thinking I am going to shape my own out of one of my old longboards I snapped the nose off on. I want something shorter, thick with short skags for spinning...just keep experimenting you will get it. I was the last one in my whole group to figure it out which sucks when you are the one that owns the boat. Driver makes a difference as well.

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prorider17    30

Welcome Toothdoc - I have a 2005 Lightning C4. If your boat has the hard tanks in the rear, they will need to be swapped out with 750lb bags. I also HIGHLY recommend you get a wakeshaper. I have the Ronix wedge and it rocks. Fill your center ballast, put a couple people on the backseat and you'll be golden. I ride goofy at 11.5-12mph with plenty of push... Mind you I'm 6'3" and 225lbs on a 4'8" Ronix board, so that says a lot.

boards are important too, but your foundation should be a solid wave. Also, water depth is critical. I've found over 15ft deep yields a kick butt wave. 

Check out my instagram for pics: @casey_cotton

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toothdoc    0
11 hours ago, prorider17 said:

Welcome Toothdoc - I have a 2005 Lightning C4. If your boat has the hard tanks in the rear, they will need to be swapped out with 750lb bags. I also HIGHLY recommend you get a wakeshaper. I have the Ronix wedge and it rocks. Fill your center ballast, put a couple people on the backseat and you'll be golden. I ride goofy at 11.5-12mph with plenty of push... Mind you I'm 6'3" and 225lbs on a 4'8" Ronix board, so that says a lot.

boards are important too, but your foundation should be a solid wave. Also, water depth is critical. I've found over 15ft deep yields a kick butt wave. 

Check out my instagram for pics: @casey_cotton

Thanks for all of the feedback guys.  I went with a buddy on his 2018 Malibu yesterday and it was a big difference.  I'm going to change out the hard tanks and get a wake shaper.  I never thought about the water depth.  Our whole lake is about 15' or less it seems except in the channel or by the dam.

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InfinitySurf    274

Water depth plays a big role, 15+ is needed....below that and the wave goes flat on you and loses push.

I use a Nauticurl wave shaper and really like it. I have a friend with a mission and another friend with $20 homemade gate, they all work well. IMO, the shape, size and angle of the suck gate do make a difference....lots of them out there and regardless you will get a better wave with a suck gate and more weight. There is no replacement for hull displacement....if you don't have enough weight, don't expect a wave you can surf rope-less behind unless you already know what you are doing and wanna be pumping the entire time. Also totally agree that having the right board for you, is at top of the list of "must have".

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