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Arippy427    0

Relatively new boat owner here. Purchased first boat in May - a 2007 centurion elite v c4. Now seem to be having issues with the center ballast. I could tell it wasn’t filling so I popped off the floor cover to take a look at it and the pump. When I hit the empty switch the pump will run, but when I hit the fill switch just get one clicking sound that sound like it’s coming from farther back near the engine (I did have the engine running when I hit the fill switch). I pulled the pump out to see the impeller and it was the same when I tried there as well. Impeller spins on empty, dead on fill, just that same short click noise coming from somewhere by the engine. Is there a trick to filling the center ballast, or is there a breaker or fuse or something that could have blown that’s preventing it from filling? Any help is appreciated. CE839006-8445-4ECB-BD4E-D93C80C9B1A5.jpeg.77e0a91589c554665db37903cca4a104.jpeg66EE19DF-F711-43D5-A5AD-3F5941C7CF88.jpeg.4162f2840a92628b2e255573d26d5e55.jpeg

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InfinitySurf    211

I would think if you have a blown fuse, it would not empty or make any noise (same pump is filling and emptying?). I don't know that pump well, but I would try taking it apart to see if you can see anything obvious, my guess is that its probably just getting old and may be time to replace. If you do replace you may wanna consider something like Ballast Puppy, they are popular....I have 3 in my boat and they have treated me well. You can get even more GPH by going to Ballast King, but you may have to also change the wiring setup.

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Arippy427    0

Thanks infinitysurf. I assume it is the same pump filling and draining as that’s the only area I see anything going into the ballast. I’ve got two more pumps in the back for the rear ballast bags, and I guess it could fill from those somehow and somewhere that I can’t see, but I’m not sure how that would work. The weird thing is this center ballast pump is tiny and has a different set up than the other two pump on the rear. The top of this pump just spins off the pump base and has a small plastic impeller. 

 

I just googled it and found the ad for it says “bilge” pump. Is it possible this pump is only to empty the bilge and center ballast, and maybe one of the other rear pumps or a pump I can’t see is filling the center ballast?

https://www.wholesalemarine.com/mayfair-replacement-cartridge-bilge-pump-motors-35102.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIpufAqMuJ3AIVFrbICh2JtQu9EAQYAiABEgLX6vD_BwE

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Arippy427    0

What the pump actually looks looks like, though mine doesn’t feel like it’s sitting on a stand like that

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Troy    194

That is the empty pump. there is a separate fill pump mounted to the ski pylon structure in the engine compartment.  then it goes from that pump to some sprinkler valves (if you have more than one factory tank) then to the tank. Sounds like the impeller is stuck on the fill pump. 

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Arippy427    0

Thanks! I think I finally have the system figured out. I have two pumps back by the pylon structure, and I thought each one of those were filling and emptying the two after market rear ballast bags. But, it appears one of those pumps is for the center ballast and the other is to fill both of the rear bags. The one that controls the center ballast I took out and cleaned and greased the impeller andd put it back on and now it looks like it’s filling and emptying the center ballast. I think I probably need to do the same thing with the other pump that fills the rear ballasts as well as it’s been sitting for awhile and sound like it’s working pretty hard when I try to fill the bags. On that same note, another question - is it normal when filling the rear bags for water to be pushed out the side empty port? Thought maybe that was the pump and water pushing air out of the bags but not sure if there was something else that could be going on?  

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bomoseen avy    34

In my '03 Avy I had all aerator pumps like that. They don't serve dual purpose. Like Troy says one for empty and on my center tank it was mounted right on the back of the tank. The fill pump was on inside back of transom. Do you have mushrooms on the outside of the transom under the swim platform? That is your pump water intake. 

From the fill pump mounted to the inside of transom there was tubing that ran to the center ballast tank. This looped up on a bar by the front of the engine before it connected to the center ballast tank. Sometimes it failed to prime and i had to push the tubing down toward the bottom of the hull to allow the water to prime the system enough to start filling. Not sure if this is your issue. The fill pumps are really difficult to get to behind the engine if you have that as your system and not the sprinkler valves

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Arippy427    0

Thanks bomoseen! This is what I have going to the center ballast. This is right behind the engine at the transom. Is the piece with the grey top the fill pump? 

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bomoseen avy    34

Whoa! That is not what I had on my Avy but may be what Troy was talking about with the sprinkler valves. Mine was simple just aerator pumps (like the mayfair cartrige in your prior pictures) attached to the inside of the transom with dedicated tubing going right to the tank. Follow the tubing each way to see if it goes to bag or another pump on bottom of hull. I don't know what that white thing is?!? Sorry for adding to the confusion

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Troy    194

That looks like what mine looked like from the factory. The white thing is a filter and the grey thing is the sprinkler valve.  My fill pump is mounted to my ski pylon structure on the port side. I'll try and remember to take a picture tonight. PM me if you want to talk about the system. 

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