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InfinitySurf    302

I missed the black friday sale and really been wanting to add GSA to my boat to get rid of the suck gate and want to work on transfers. I ride on a GSA boat all the time and the wave is fantastic (for the few that may not know....this is a surf system (GoSurfAssist.com) using modern tabs to form the surf wave and you have a controller mounted near drivers area, plug and play wiring that comes with GPS antenna so it retracts at certain speeds not designed for it to be used, auto launch feature to get you on plane quicker, shaper dial on controller to adjuster wave from surf/skim, 3 second transfer times, comes in black or silver and everything needed for the system to be installed).

I really want to pull the trigger and do this now (or at least very soon, lets say by April 15th at latest)...hoping to save a few bucks but if it does not work out I will be doing it anyway.

Trying to guage interest from others....if I approach either GSA or WaveMakers about doing a group buy (Wavemakers will be selling GSA systems only in a couple weeks, no more "Wave Control" since they didn't have the resources to support it). So if I can get something worked out for 15-20% off the $4k these go for ($600-$800 off)....anyone else be in? Thinking to get them to commit and give maybe 20% discount, I probably need at least 5 systems being bought and if they will work with it, I can see what interest I get from other forums since we probably dont have 5 people here ready to go now, just wanted to check with my homeboys first. I know at least 2 others here have mentioned in last few weeks, wanting a system asap, so hopefully we can get together and get this done and save money at same time. Let me know if your interested, I plan to call GSA by end of week.

Drew

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RhuntIII    555

4k for flappers and that doesn't even cover installation! I'm out, my boat's killer with the CATS. Good luck rounding up a crew. You might hit up more people on Facebook in the "Official" page.

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Nick213    583
43 minutes ago, RhuntIII said:

4k for flappers and that doesn't even cover installation! I'm out, my boat's killer with the CATS. Good luck rounding up a crew. You might hit up more people on Facebook in the "Official" page.

Hahah?

Im with Rhunt - the CATS fin. I think the sv models throw a killer wave listed with less weight and gas consumption  then it dose with a surf system. The boat isn't listed to bad where it's "dangerous" or uncomfortable. 

 

My avy though that's a different story, they can be pretty sketch and I'd see wanting a surf system in that over being listing that far over. JM2C

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InfinitySurf    302

My boat is killer right now too running level (slight list to surf side) using the Nauticurl suck gate and there is no denying that its a cheap easy setup that works good and produces a great wave (listing does too as you said). But automated flappers for me would be better cause I want to work on side to side transfers and heelside surfing and investment is worth it cause I am planning to keep boat a while and surf system is the only thing that separates my boat from the brand new ones and $4k is a lot cheaper than upgrade to a new boat. But I understand it wont be worth it or wanted by everyone.

I talked to GSA this evening and they will do a group buy, he said they actually do it frequently. I am gonna get the exact details from them in next day or 2 and then will let everyone know and we will see if anyone is interested. Thanks for the idea on the FB page Rhunt, I will try that once I have the details.

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Mrwick    65
8 hours ago, InfinitySurf said:

My boat is killer right now too running level (slight list to surf side) using the Nauticurl suck gate and there is no denying that its a cheap easy setup that works good and produces a great wave (listing does too as you said). But automated flappers for me would be better cause I want to work on side to side transfers and heelside surfing and investment is worth it cause I am planning to keep boat a while and surf system is the only thing that separates my boat from the brand new ones and $4k is a lot cheaper than upgrade to a new boat. But I understand it wont be worth it or wanted by everyone.

I talked to GSA this evening and they will do a group buy, he said they actually do it frequently. I am gonna get the exact details from them in next day or 2 and then will let everyone know and we will see if anyone is interested. Thanks for the idea on the FB page Rhunt, I will try that once I have the details.

Infinity, did Ryan say if he had his new controlers yet......I bought on the Black Friday sale and still haven’t gotten my system yet☹️

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Shaka    146

I'm designing flappers as we speak but it's not going to be automated. Most likely the driver will control everything through a joystick. I've figured out how to make it do a quick launch and surf right/surf left.

I decided to do it because I simply do not want to pay the price for a GSA and can get similar performance for roughly a quarter of the cost.

Don't get me wrong.....I think GSA is a great system.

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Jake707    171

Just to respond, I am def out. Can justify paying 20% of my boats value on automated system hahaha but then again I don't think this is geared towards boats pushing 20, only mayber early teens at most

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RhuntIII    555
3 hours ago, Shaka said:

I'm designing flappers as we speak but it's not going to be automated. Most likely the driver will control everything through a joystick. I've figured out how to make it do a quick launch and surf right/surf left.

I decided to do it because I simply do not want to pay the price for a GSA and can get similar performance for roughly a quarter of the cost.

Don't get me wrong.....I think GSA is a great system.

Will you be able to use your system like standard trim tabs to run the boat level while cruising? 

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Shaka    146
16 hours ago, RhuntIII said:

Will you be able to use your system like standard trim tabs to run the boat level while cruising? 

Unnecessary if you have a center trim tab like an A-plate. That's all you need for trimming the boat.

With that said I'm considering adding individual controls for each tab in conjunction with the joystick. Doing this also adds a bonus of being able to fine tune the wave.

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h20king    794

He is talking side to side for uneven weight .center cavitation plate only works for bow rise. Quick surf on our 238 could be used for trim

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Shaka    146

Honestly I think trim in that sense has to take a backseat to the performance of the tabs. When I'm cruising a little weight imbalance doesn't affect my boat much. However, I will probably add individual controls for each tab which would also allow the ability to trim. I could also go with a six position monetary joystick which would allow that as well.

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h20king    794

Does not affect performance  but is nice to beable to level out

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Shaka    146

The way I would set it up is there would be a joystick position where both tabs will go down for a quick launch. There would be surf right and surf left joystick positions. Each of these positions will deploy the opposite side tab while raising the surf side tab. The tabs would only move as long as you have the joystick in that position. The boat could easily be trimmed by using the joystick small amounts which would deploy a tab slightly to handle trim.

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h20king    794

Nice you are going the extra mile. The quick surf on our old 238 was on momentary switches. It was not automated but it was nice to have independent control of the tabs

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Shaka    146

It's going to be a fun project. The joystick thing came to me when I was thinking about my dad's old boat. It was a 24ft Gulfstream Calypso with dual trim tabs that really do the same thing as modern surf tabs. The control was a joystick that had six positions: Bow up, bow down, port up, port down, starboard up, and starboard down. With one control it trimmed the boat and did a bunch of other things. I used it to make a big wave so I could get massive air on my kneeboard.

The big problem is Bennett no longer makes the joystick and the only other marine version I can find is very difficult to acquire unless you're in Europe,. I work in manufacturing so I'm looking at weatherproof industrial controls that are designed to control linear actuators. If I can't find what I want I'll just get the Lenco switches and do it with individual controls. Down the road I may try and program a logic board that automates everything. 

 

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Mrwick    65

Shaka, have you looked at a joystick control from an industrial standup forklift?  They are semi element proof.   That and four relays connected to the accuators would get the job done.

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Shaka    146

Yes I've been looking at those. I'd personally like something a little smaller but for testing one of those would work. Digikey also has some options.

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