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Birddog    3

Now that the S238 has been out for a couple of years I would really like to hear feedback from the owners of the 238 on this site. I'm in the market for a bigger boat and my main focus is Surfing. I want a nice long pocket. I don't mind adding weight in the form of larger bags and or lead. Id really like to avoid having bags in seats etc like I do now with my Sanger. I'm looking at a 2016 S238 possibly an MB B52. Talk to me.

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NW Vettes    12

If you are looking at s238 than I’d highly suggest getting a 2017 or 2018. Well worth the extra money for the touch screen. I’m contemplating selling my loaded 2017 S238 :-) (in Spokane Washington) I’m looking at ordering a G23 or Ri257. 

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NW Vettes    12

By the way I love the S338 but I change boats ever year. The S238 once it’s bagged out with weight and the owner learns to dial it in is one of the better all round waves out there. I was amazed how big, clean and long we got our wave this summer. The boat does have a learning curve to get it dialed but once you do it’s a beautiful thing. 

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h20king    794

Here is the skinny. The 16 238 out surfs the newer ones. Supreme changed the prop shaft angle in 17 and that changed everything. Sure the 17 and newer have a digital dash but it does not surf as good as a 16 will. We have loved both our Supremes and have had Zero issues to speak of.  If new 238's surfed as well as our 16 238 did we would have just bought another one instead of spending all the extra money to go with a fi23. . As for ballast on the 238 we ran a wakemakers bag upgrade and 640 lbs of pop bags  all under the seat

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Birddog    3

thanks for the info, touchscreen is low on my list of needed items. Do you run the surfsystem or listed?

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MFaso    56

Haven't been on here in a few weeks. I have a 2017 S238. It was my first surf boat and last season was my first summer with it. Surfed April to October here in Jersey. Took me about a month(weekends) to figure everything out, including dropping the rope.(I am a new surfer as well)

I have the wakemakers upgrade which does put bags under the side seats but I didn't need that space at all. There are plenty of other places to keep stuff. I don't use the bow bag at all so I used all of that space. People are usually sitting on the bench seats anyway so you would need to have them get up to get in there every time. I also have 500lbs of lead. The wave was nice but I was out with only 1 person surfing a LOT. Or just my wife and 2 young stick figure kids... So, I bought a 450lb sumo sack for those days and just put it on the floor. It was fine without it but I think I bought it for $100 and once you try it, you are hooked on it. As I said, most of the time it was 1 surfer and a driver in the boat. the wave is insane once you figure out what works.

I don't know what it's like without the touchscreen but I wanted it. I don't know if I'd like the rocker switches as much but I've never used them. There are a few non-supreme surf boats surfing out there when I'm out during the week. Their wave isn't comparable to mine and they are always looking. They are also right up near the boat. :)

I love the boat. I haven't had any issues with it other than learning how to use reverse with an inboard, which is on me...lol

I had so much fun surfing that I didn't even try wakeboarding or knee boarding. The knee board never even made it to the boat. I stuck my first 360 on the very last trip out which really topped off my season. I'm hoping I can stick it when the boat goes back in, in April!

Here are some shots from last summer. Some days the wave was cleaner than others. I went out when it was VERY windy a bunch of times. If I'm going to surf, I'm surfing no matter what the lake is like. Had a good time no matter what the conditions.

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Birddog    3

thanks for this! this site is light on pics and videos, that wake looks big and long! very encouraging. what motor do you have?

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h20king    794

Not the best pic but you can see how much cleaner the 16 wake ispost-777-0-96230300-1469741122_thumb.jpg

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MFaso    56

I've gotten it like that as well H20 but most days there is a decent amount of wind and chop here. (And a ton of other boats) I stopped worrying about it. It really makes no difference. Size matters. :)

I have the 409. I think it was only an extra $700 so it was a no brainer.

 

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MFaso    56

Here is another. I was on a 6'1 ocean board though. We had a lot of fun switching to this board a lot this summer. My kids always yell "fire hydrant!". It's not that easy for me. I probably only pulled it off 3 times. The other times I ate it. haha

 

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h20king    794
On 1/13/2018 at 11:52 AM, Birddog said:

what speed are you guys at?

11.8 MPH for us. The 16's just surf better than the 17 + model years. If they still surfed as good I would have just bought another one and saved 30k. Love love loved our 16 238.

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MFaso    56

I'm at 11.1. Never really experimented with a faster speed. Might make the wake cleaner but I was happy with my settings so once I was surfing consistently, I left it alone. H20 also lists his boat instead of using the surf system. I tried that as well but didn't work for me as well and my wife can't drive the boat like that.(She complains, which ruins my good time. ;))

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h20king    794
11 minutes ago, MFaso said:

I'm at 11.1. Never really experimented with a faster speed. Might make the wake cleaner but I was happy with my settings so once I was surfing consistently, I left it alone. H20 also lists his boat instead of using the surf system. I tried that as well but didn't work for me as well and my wife can't drive the boat like that.(She complains, which ruins my good time. ;))

That's because supreme changed the shaft angle in 17. I  don't have a preference if  I set up listed or level. I set up for what puts out the best wake. 

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MFaso    56

gotcha. Here is a video I shot with my drone. I was DRIVING and flying the drone at the same time so excuse the bad footage.(It was tough to do) Only me driving, and my wife and kids in the boat.(My wife is probably 120 and my kids are both less than 50lbs) The wake was pretty clean. board he was riding is 6'1. Plenty of length on the wave.

https://www.skypixel.com/videos/look-at-this-amazing-piece-i-shot-with-my-mavic-pro-909eefe7-3425-43b7-bd0b-5e30f628c6ff

 

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h20king    794

Nice not saying the new 228 does not make a nice wake just saying I prefer the 16 wake. Our 238 went to it's new home yesterday  On a side note nice video but pull in those bumpers.  We call boats with bumpers out underway Barney boaters here on the left coast LOL 

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MFaso    56
On ‎1‎/‎17‎/‎2018 at 2:46 PM, h20king said:

Nice not saying the new 228 does not make a nice wake just saying I prefer the 16 wake. Our 238 went to it's new home yesterday  On a side note nice video but pull in those bumpers.  We call boats with bumpers out underway Barney boaters here on the left coast LOL 

they are pulled in. I tie them up higher when we are underway. They hang much lower when we are in the slip. Pulling them in the boat on the seats is gross. Since the boat stays at the lake, they get grimy and you don't want that on your seats. Since you tow, yours probably stay really clean. Much different when they are in use for the whole season and literally protecting the boat 24/7. The boat and dock are constantly touching them as well as the water.

untying them and storing them while we are out is a pain and not needed.

 

 

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MFaso    56
On ‎1‎/‎22‎/‎2018 at 10:45 AM, Birddog said:

dude, take em off and stow em when under way.

Why put those dirty things in my boat when they can hang above the water? You guys who don't keep your boat in the slip all summer may not understand how gross they get sitting in the water protecting the boat.

They are tied up higher on the cleats. When we stop on the water to eat it makes things easier as well, as I can just lower them in quick when pulling up to the restaurants or the ice cream place.(we have multiple places to dock to eat on the water as well as an ice cream parlor.)

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h20king    794

Dude just tie the dirty ones to the dock and leave them there and get a set for the boat. We have restaurants and services on the water as well but would never drive around with the Barney bumpers hanging out.

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RhuntIII    557

Well that escalated quickly.. lol.  Curious, Why not just leave the bumpers tied up in the slip? I'm not to sure about these North Westerners but we don't ride with the bumpers out down here in South Texas either. I would also like to add it's better to get called out here than on the water with the ladies. 

Barney

Bumper

Boaters

bumping

boobs 

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Bongo Fury    641

Funny ...when we see boats go by with bumpers hanging we know they are from Disney the rental company.....but then again they are not nice wake boats.

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MFaso    56

I have a set tied at the slip as well. I don't see any harm in the way I have it. Is this a wake surf forum or a fashion show forum? lol

The way I do things makes life easier and quicker for me on the water. It's just that simple.

Being a dickhead about it is just childish, and funny to me at the same time.

 

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stoked    1,042

We call people with their bumpers out Wally's. Even when I drive the boat from it's wet slip to the boat ramp I pull them in, and it's only a 2 minute ride.

But to each his own... Wally... B)

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