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carguy79ta    67

Hi guys last weekend we were out on our normal lake and the COE drops the water level after labor day. noticed that the wave was washing out.  played around with different parts of the lake and found that the boat with full ballast and 1k lead likes 19 to 20 ft as minimum depth.  does anyone else have any "data" they would like to share?

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Troy    234

My Avy likes 15’ plus to make the wave right. Min for me is 10’. 

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Fivebar2    176

My 257 is out for the season but went out on my buddy's 237 and anything under about 20' the wave quality went way down.

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BoardCo    110

Any of the Ri series, FS Series, etc. will surf great in over 15 feet and ideally over 20 feet. They will surf decently as low as 10 feet of depth, however you need to slow the boat down. As an example, you can get a respectable surf wave on a Ri257 w/ stock ballast in 10 feet of depth but you are going around 9.8MPH. Typically you would surf on a Ri257 at 11.2mph.

At 8 feet the waves become essentially impossible to clean up.

Any decrease in depth below 20 feet needs to be met with a decrease in speed. Your wave will be shorter, but you can keep the power and mass.

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carguy79ta    67

yeah as I was figuring that out,  I found my self in a part of the lake that had a lot of flatbottom John boats fishing.  too many to surf.  so we dumped ballast went for a boat ride drank 1 beer and called it a day.

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Darkside    248
10 hours ago, BoardCo said:

Any of the Ri series, FS Series, etc. will surf great in over 15 feet and ideally over 20 feet. They will surf decently as low as 10 feet of depth, however you need to slow the boat down. As an example, you can get a respectable surf wave on a Ri257 w/ stock ballast in 10 feet of depth but you are going around 9.8MPH. Typically you would surf on a Ri257 at 11.2mph.

At 8 feet the waves become essentially impossible to clean up.

Any decrease in depth below 20 feet needs to be met with a decrease in speed. Your wave will be shorter, but you can keep the power and mass.

Boardco sharing the goods again!  Thank you!

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On 10/7/2017 at 1:04 PM, BoardCo said:

Any of the Ri series, FS Series, etc. will surf great in over 15 feet and ideally over 20 feet. They will surf decently as low as 10 feet of depth, however you need to slow the boat down. As an example, you can get a respectable surf wave on a Ri257 w/ stock ballast in 10 feet of depth but you are going around 9.8MPH. Typically you would surf on a Ri257 at 11.2mph.

At 8 feet the waves become essentially impossible to clean up.

Any decrease in depth below 20 feet needs to be met with a decrease in speed. Your wave will be shorter, but you can keep the power and mass.

Is the Fi similar? 

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BoardCo    110

The Fi is impacted less by shallow water than any boats I have ever been in - definitely impacted less than a SV and slightly less than a Ri. If you use Quicksurf that does change things though - a boat that is listed in shallow water will perform better than one using Quicksurf.

I am not saying that the FS will surf better than the Ri in shallow water, I am just saying it will be impacted less than a Ri. The Ri still puts out the best wave of any boat I have been on - even in shallow water, but the impact on it is a bit more than what we see on a FS44.

I have heard that using a surf system attachment like a Wakesurf Shaper creates a better wave in shallow water, but I haven't tested it personally. Typically these systems don't work nearly as well as Quicksurf on Ri and FS models, but I have heard they make a big difference in shallow water (13 feet and under). 

It is also important to keep in mind that when it comes to shallow water the changes are exponential, meaning you will notice a much bigger difference between 10 feet and 12 feet vs. 12 feet and 14 feet. The difference between 15 and 20 is barely noticeable where the difference between 9 and 10 is significant. 

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InfinitySurf    302

I have noticed that on my SV244 that I use a Nauticurl suck gate on....I can run in 10ft of water without it going dead on me tho you can feel it lose a little of its push and it loses a little height. Once you get to 8ft and below tho, wave still goes pretty flat quick and you better be pumping or you will wash out the back quick. 

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