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MFaso    56

Can someone break down the difference between soulcraft, chaos and Blu surf? These three seem to be the leading custom board makers but what is the difference? How do I know when I should put that kind of money into a board over my doomswell neo?(which I love) what differences am I really going to notice?

Anyone out there try all 3 by any chance?

I've ridden... Doomswell neo 4'8, phase 5 model X, phase 5 hammerhead, 6'1 ocean board.

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InfinitySurf    262

I have not tried Chaos or Blu surf. I also bought and really like my Doomswell Neo in 4' 8", been riding it the last 4 months or so. Few weeks ago I rode 2 Soulcraft boards, hard to describe how they are different from the Neo but definately lighter and it felt much more agile. Quicker carves and bigger air on run. What really got me was that when I get 20ft back on my boat.....a few good pumps with my Neo, 95% of the time I can ride forward on the wave fairly easy, with the Soulcraft it was simply leaning forward and I shot up there, cant imagine what pumping would do. I thot my Neo was super fast (and it is) just not as fast as that Soulcraft was. Again, not good enough to know why, was just able to do more immediately on those boards and why I decided this winter I am gonna order one for myself. I know getting the Neo allowed me to progress much faster than my original LF board....and feel like the Soulcraft will do the same. Considering this is an addiction for me, figure its worth it. $1k does not seem to bad which is about what I heard is cost without custom artwork. The ones I tried were "The Emily" base model and then the rails were customized to how he likes to ride, which happens to be same as me. Lots of carves with ability to air and do spins.

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MFaso    56

nice. I'm able to pump back up with my NEO too. My back leg gets tired because I'm on the brakes so much. I took out the rear two small fins.(did you?) I feel like it's real fast. Can't imagine it being faster but it's the only surfstyle board I have tried.

Wish I knew someone on the east coast who had a soucraft so I could try it. I have nothing near me to demo at all, let along a soulcraft. I can't get air. I'm trying hard but the tail doesn't lift off. My 360s are decent but I don't ride away. This is my first season surfing so I'm not sure if I'm ahead or behind. I'd hate to spend 1k on something that I'm not sure i'll love. It's tough...

 

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CO Surfer    289

$875 for several of the Soulcraft boards including the SOS and the Voodoo that Jeff recommended for me.  Order from Boardco and you save shipping cost.  Takes 2-3 weeks from ordering until you receive it.

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MFaso    56
7 minutes ago, CO Surfer said:

$875 for several of the Soulcraft boards including the SOS and the Voodoo that Jeff recommended for me.  Order from Boardco and you save shipping cost.  Takes 2-3 weeks from ordering until you receive it.

any info on the difference in ride based on your experience? I know the costs but looking to see if it's justified at my skill level.

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InfinitySurf    262

MFaso....most people I would think would not benefit from the upgrade yet. You and I (and plenty others on here) take it too another level tho. This isn't a phase that is gonna burn out in a few months, I am a natural athlete and expect to have/use the new SC on a regular basis for many years and think I will get better, faster. I have been going surfing every Weds from 2-7 with a guy I know (we trade off boats each week) and because I am dedicating time to it, its paying off. I started this year too, I can get a little air with the Neo but noticed immediately how much higher I went with the SC without adding any effort (still figuring out how to pull up my knees without throwing myself off balance). I can 360 easily most of the time, but not get back into the wave and keep on rolling with any regularity yet, think a lot of that is practice, but I also noticed with that SC being so agile, I could spin faster and get on gas faster which upped my percentage right away. All that said cause I think its worth it for someone who is motivated to become better faster.

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InfinitySurf    262

** I took out the rear two small fins.(did you?) **

Yes I did...like it much better that way

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Cdifranco    457

It's all subjective and based on you're particular riding style. I can 360 and catch airs on my NEO no problem, but on my other boards I can't as easily. Figure out what you like and dislike about the boards you have now and compare to what you're looking at for a custom. To me, I'd practice out the rest of the summer with what you have and mull this question over the winter. Out of who you listed though, the only one I'd even look at is Soulcraft. I wouldn't use a chaos to keep me afloat during a flood.

 

also, change/ upgrade your fins to something faster, made my NEO totally different.  

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stoked    1,042
11 hours ago, MFaso said:

nice. I'm able to pump back up with my NEO too. My back leg gets tired because I'm on the brakes so much. I took out the rear two small fins.(did you?) I feel like it's real fast. Can't imagine it being faster but it's the only surfstyle board I have tried.

Wish I knew someone on the east coast who had a soucraft so I could try it. I have nothing near me to demo at all, let along a soulcraft. I can't get air. I'm trying hard but the tail doesn't lift off. My 360s are decent but I don't ride away. This is my first season surfing so I'm not sure if I'm ahead or behind. I'd hate to spend 1k on something that I'm not sure i'll love. It's tough...

 

Let me know if you're ever in MD (annapolis area). We have two SCs, a Hanu and a Voodoo, along with a bunch of other non-customs. 

I'm not familiar with the NEO, but when you say two smaller fins, do you mean twinzers? If so I'm interested that you feel it is faster without them. 

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MFaso    56

Stoked - Thanks for the offer man. Wish I had more time to travel but my kids are 5 and 9 so we are in disney mode mostly...lol The NEO is a 4 fin setup and the two rear fins are little mini fins. Similar to the single little mini fin on a skim style board but maybe a little taller than those. Once I pulled those the board became much more loose and I was able to gain a ton more speed. with those fins on, it felt like I was riding on rails so pumping didn't give me much speed.

CDifranco - what fins did you put on your NEO? I don't know much about fins. I figured fins are fins. didn't think they would make any real difference unless they were bigger or there were more or less of them. I think the doom boards all come with futures, which I thought was a good brand. Throw me a link to what you have!

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InfinitySurf    262

Agreed, removing the 2 smaller nubster style fins made my Neo feel looser and faster too. I just run the 2 larger futures fins too but would be interested in different style if it makes a difference tho I really have no complains about the board as-is. 

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Cwazy1    88
4 hours ago, stoked said:

Let me know if you're ever in MD (annapolis area). We have two SCs, a Hanu and a Voodoo, along with a bunch of other non-customs. 

I'm not familiar with the NEO, but when you say two smaller fins, do you mean twinzers? If so I'm interested that you feel it is faster without them. 

they're talking about the tmf-1's that doomswell runs as quad rears. 

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Cwazy1    88
1 hour ago, MFaso said:

I figured fins are fins. 

If your board's riding experience total sum was 100, 75% of that would be due to the shape of the board, and the remainder 25% would be from your fins. 

So no, fins are not just fins. 

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MFaso    56

Good info as always Cwazy. Are the soulcraft fins interchangeable? Does the board come with fins or am I looking at another $100 in fins? Will my doomswell futures fit on the soulcraft?

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Cwazy1    88

Most high end builders run futures boxes, so you'll be able to interchange them. The fins that come with the doomswell are the same as the fins that come with a soulcraft board. They're just the f4's in plastic, v1 from DS and v2 foil from SC. I don't know a single person who runs them. Everyone I know who rides well and is looking to progress has a few sets of fins they ride. WCT's, John John's in S or XS, chaos', etc. 

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MFaso    56

ok, so what fins should I upgrade to for my DS NEO and will I want to move them to the SC too? Not looking to drop 1k on a SC yet but I'll get fins if they will help me progress and if they will be what moves to the SC with me.

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Cwazy1    88
4 hours ago, MFaso said:

ok, so what fins should I upgrade to for my DS NEO and will I want to move them to the SC too? Not looking to drop 1k on a SC yet but I'll get fins if they will help me progress and if they will be what moves to the SC with me.

wct rastas. get them on amazon. If you don't like, return. 

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MFaso    56

There's two... Not sure on the difference. Maybe one set is just the 2017 version. That's what I think anyway...

Futures Fins - Rasta Honeycomb Quad https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007J5EQ1S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_D.HPzbC3B8973

 

2017 RASTA HC QUAD - BAMBOO/GREY https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074MGJT67/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_oaIPzbKZQD2BR

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CO Surfer    289
On 8/28/2017 at 7:26 PM, MFaso said:

any info on the difference in ride based on your experience? I know the costs but looking to see if it's justified at my skill level.

Not yet.  Should get my board on Friday.  I have yet to ride a Soulcraft.  Really hoping that changes this weekend. :)

The price I quoted previously was with the stock plastic fins.

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Cwazy1    88
2 hours ago, MFaso said:

There's two... Not sure on the difference. Maybe one set is just the 2017 version. That's what I think anyway...

Futures Fins - Rasta Honeycomb Quad https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007J5EQ1S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_D.HPzbC3B8973

 

2017 RASTA HC QUAD - BAMBOO/GREY https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074MGJT67/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_oaIPzbKZQD2BR

None of those are it. My other friend made the mistake earlier this season and ordered one of the ones you linked. Whoops. 

Its this one: http://amzn.to/2goJwU7

 

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stoked    1,042

^^ I have a brand new set of these I'll sell you! ^^ 

I ordered them for my wife's SC a couple of years ago and she didn't like them because they didn't match her color scheme... :huh:

 

 

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Cwazy1    88
6 hours ago, stoked said:

^^ I have a brand new set of these I'll sell you! ^^ 

I ordered them for my wife's SC a couple of years ago and she didn't like them because they didn't match her color scheme... :huh:

 

 

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CO Surfer    289

I have officially joined the Soulcraft family.  This is the SOS Pro Model.

It's kind of cool to see your name written on the bottom of the board by Jeff.  Great guy to deal with and even oriented the logo per my request set up for a goofy rider.  Can't wait to hit the lake this weekend!

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MFaso    56

How did it go CO surfer? What you were riding before?

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CO Surfer    289

Night and day.  I was riding an entry level Inland Surfer Taco which I thought was a fairly decent board.  The Soulcraft SOS is nothing like the IS Taco.  My initial thought of the Soulcraft was that it was "squirrelly".  The first two runs I was wondering if I had made a mistake buying the Soulcraft.  Well, that thought didn't last long.  It is just WAY more responsive than the IS and significantly lighter and has more flotation.  It takes a lot less effort to manipulate the board.  This is a bit of an oversimplification but it's almost like you just have to think about where to go and it will.

Having said that, this is not the board you want to put a first timer on.  It's not stable enough to learn on.  I'm only in my second season so my opinion is to get through one season with a more basic board and then upgrade.

One comment I've read on here is that the Soulcraft boards are "faster".  I think better wording is "more responsive".  In other words, you're not on your back foot the whole time keeping from running into the swim platform.  It's kind of completely different.  You just use more subtle inputs to brake or go forward.  I'm a convert!  I love this board.

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