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Sfb330    11

I have a 2013 sv244 with the zr409 engine.  Every now and then the starter button just stops working while I'm out on the lake.  Boat is in neutral, batteries fully charged, etc.  I hit the button and  nothing happens.  I've wiggled all the wires in the battery compartment, reset the ignition trips, etc and it still doesn't work.  I let the boat sit for about 15 mins and then it works fine and the boat starts right up. It may not happen again for 50 hours or it could happen again 10 minutes later.  Because it's so intermittent it's very hard to troubleshoot.  

When I hit the start button I don't hear a solenoid clicking so it leads me to believe it's a switch related issue before the starter solenoid.  

Many thoughts on this would certainly be appreciated...

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jester    111

I do like Whisky. :)  I would start with the button itself.  It could be how you are pressing it.  If you have a wife let her push it since they are great at pushing things until they break :).  For troubleshooting you could pull the wire going to the starter and put a voltage meter on it to see if you get the same voltage every time.  If you confirm strong voltage the next place to check would be a relay or computer control for the starting system.  I do not know what one it is since I have not looked at how this is wired up.  Hope this helps.     

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Sfb330    11

Sounds like a good place to start.  Thx for the ideas!

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Cwazy1    91

check your engine kill switch lanyard. If that is faulty or has connection issues, you won't be able to ignite. 

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257Tsunami    50

Sounds like your neutral safety sensor/switch is on its way out. When they start to go the sensor thinks the boat is in gear. So it would act the exact same way as it would if you left the boat in gear and were trying to start it. The good news is that if I happen to be right, you won't have to pay freight on the whiskey. We're pretty much neighbours.:D

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Bobby Elite    6

I have a very different boat but had similar issue. Turned out that the bolt holding the power cable to starter wasn't tight enough. I would tighten the posts on the batteries and the starter. Mine felt tight, but after snugging everything down I haven't had any starting issues.

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Chexi    36

One of the others probably got it, but forst thing is to make sure you are actually in neutral.  Made that maistake a fee times, and every time it happens, I am like holy crap what the %^{^{!  I have gotten in the habit of checking the throttle first (and last, becaus it is always it).  On an old tige, i had the neutral switch going bad problem.  Very intermittent and very annoying.  If you have this problem and you are sure you are in neutral, take it out of neutral and then go back to neutral and try again.  Try a few times, and if it tirns over, you have found your problem.

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Sfb330    11

Thanks guys, I'll take a good look at the neutral switch. What's odd is after about 15 mins it will work again without having touched anything.  It's like something is cooling down and then it works.  Like the starter motor itself is acting up.  I will take a multimeter on the boat and when it does it again, check to see if I'm getting 12 volts to the starter when the button is pressed.  If I am then it's likely something with the starter itself.  

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Sfb330    11

Thanks guys, I'll take a good look at the neutral switch. What's odd is after about 15 mins it will work again without having touched anything.  It's like something is cooling down and then it works.  Like the starter motor itself is acting up.  I will take a multimeter on the boat and when it does it again, check to see if I'm getting 12 volts to the starter when the button is pressed.  If I am then it's likely something with the starter itself.  

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WakeDoc    488

Trade it in on a 2018 Centurion Si23, problem solved. I will PM my shipping address!

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Bobby Elite    6
15 hours ago, Sfb330 said:

Thanks guys, I'll take a good look at the neutral switch. What's odd is after about 15 mins it will work again without having touched anything.  It's like something is cooling down and then it works.  Like the starter motor itself is acting up.  I will take a multimeter on the boat and when it does it again, check to see if I'm getting 12 volts to the starter when the button is pressed.  If I am then it's likely something with the starter itself.  

Ditto, I thought something was getting heat soak. Tighten the wires!

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tkrieger    0

Wondering how you resolved this issue.  My 2014 FX22 starting doing this a couple weeks ago...  Generally reseting the breakers was all I needed to do to get it going again, however yesterday it died altogether...  Spent the entire day checking connections / fuses, etc... but no luck.  Did you end up replacing the starter button, or the neutral sensor?

Thanks

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Hein    61

Ever try tapping/banging on the starter solenoid when it won't turn over?  They can get stuck when hot.

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Jake707    170
19 hours ago, Hein said:

Ever try tapping/banging on the starter solenoid when it won't turn over?  They can get stuck when hot.

Id start with this. For years I had a long 1/2 socket extension and small hammer in an old Toyota beater I had years ago, every now and then Id turn the key and nothing would happen. Pop the hood give the side of the starter a couple good smacks and boom fired right up.  Try to replicate the problem at home or on the dock then smack the starter. If it fires up right after swap in a new starter and you should be good. If not then start checking power to the starter and back from there.

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dunny    0

starter relay

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namadio    0

Did you ever solve your problem?  I have a 2002 Escalade w/ the 350 Mag.  I've replaced the starter, starter solenoid x2, neutral safety switch, and had issues with the kill switch before.  Good luck!  I've still got an issue where if the throttle isn't exactly in neutral the boat wont start.  I have to jiggle the throttle just a hair, usually pulling it back slightly towards neutral (against the stop basically without the button up to shift out).  One of these days I'm going to look at it closer...

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tkrieger    0

Mine ended up being the entire Throttle control electronics... Dealer replaced under warranty, and working great now.

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InfinitySurf    280

I had exact same thing happen to me a few times on ignition button rather than the start button, same boat as the OP except a 2014 SV244. This boat has the push button start, stop...and of course the push button ignition button that powers up the system once you turn on the key so you can then push the "Start button". It never happened when I had not been using boat for a while, was always on the water when I had shut things down and later went to press "ignition button" to power things up so I could start boat....would push ignition button and nothing would happen. Let the boat sits 15-20mins and it would work again, was a really frustrating issue cause the first couple times I did not know that if I waited 15-20mins it would work again so I had a couple frantic scrambles! Especially cause the first time it happened to me, it was about 11pm at night as I was going down a dark narrow channel with a boat full of drunks and a good current that was pushing the boat toward the rocks....and drunk people think everything is funny, a few of them almost got thrown overboard! 

Anyway, replaced the push button switch once I realized that had to be the issue since it would always work after a while and it has not happened since then. However, I now basically don't use the ignition button except on rare occasions because I think these switches just wear out over time and all these push buttons will end up doing the same thing eventually. I now just leave the ignition button "hot/active" and just use the key to turn things on/off as needed. When surfing and we stop to switch riders.....I just hit the "stop" button to kill the engine and just leave the rest of the power on, when ready to go, just hit start and go. If we are gonna sit for a while...I just use the key to kill all the power. On occasion if we are gonna float for a while, I will turn on the key and use the ignition button to turn off the main power so the radio still works but I am not draining the batteries...I just know each time I do that, I have one less "push" down the road and eventually I am gonna push it and nothing will happen again, lol (I actually had my electronics guy fabricate me a little gadgets with 3 wires so if any of my push buttons stop working, I can bypass them with these wires to at least be able to get back from whereever I am at. The joys of newish technology.

I probably just need to order 1 extra push button for each, so I have them for down the road.

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Nick213    586

The only time I use my ignition button is the beginning of the day. If we are on the boat we just use the start and stop button. No issues here yet with my buttons for me or the previous owner!

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