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Nick213    583

Nice, as always thanks for the info boardco!!!!

Cant wait to see the Fi23 and find out if with the options I'd need/want if it'll fit my budget.

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CO Surfer    289
15 hours ago, Cdifranco said:

Even with ramfill arnt you waiting to fill the PNP bags afterwards? 

Yes, but the time you're waiting is much less.  I believe my timers on my bags (I fill both at the same time) is 3:20.  It would be over 10 minutes at least without Ramfill.  

I normally fill Ramfill driving down the lake to get a little ways away from the marina and then finish filling the bags as I'm getting out the rope, board, and flag.  Without Ramfill, I'd be sitting around waiting before surfing.

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carguy79ta    67

on my 257 it takes 6 to 7 min to fill all the pnp.  ramfill is about 30 to 45 sec

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Darkside    248

Making things "optional" is purely a reduce the base price strategy.   Just like Malibu having the wedge as an option.   It has virtually a 100% take rate, but because it's an option, based price is 3k lower.   

CATS is a huge feature, I can't believe people don't use it.  I even use it when cruising to level the boat. 

 

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nailem    29

I know there was a lawsuit between CC and Malibu but I thought it was about gate type systems? How does it effect Centurion and CATS? Was the lawsuit over any delayed convergence system?

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rockballer    162

That dash is a dime forsure.... one of the only complaints I had for the last few years. Looks like they smoothed out the bolts and screws too. Sleek..... someone in the design department has made some huge changes. Just seen a video on Facebook. Definitely heading in the right direction with this boat.

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RhuntIII    555
1 hour ago, nailem said:

I know there was a lawsuit between CC and Malibu but I thought it was about gate type systems? How does it effect Centurion and CATS? Was the lawsuit over any delayed convergence system?

I thought Centurion was the one with the patent on CATS, was introduced in the early 2000 and then reintroduced in 2014.

What's the history on CATS and and having to pay royalties, are they paying them to Malibu? 

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wheels    151

Malibu holds the patent on an articulating tracking fin. They were playing around with it before surfgate 

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h20king    794

How is this possible? Centurion came with an articulating tracking fin in the 90's

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10 hours ago, rockballer said:

That dash is a dime forsure.... one of the only complaints I had for the last few years. Looks like they smoothed out the bolts and screws too. Sleek..... someone in the design department has made some huge changes. Just seen a video on Facebook. Definitely heading in the right direction with this boat.

Not sure if this link will work, but I assume this is the facebook video you mentioned (it's the Fi 23)

 

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rockballer    162

Ya that's the video. I assume that's the new dash for the entire line.... ?

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BoardCo    110

The dash on the Ri is the same for 2018, just to eliminate any confusion. The dash for the Fi series is different.

CATS was introduced previously by Centurion (actually in the 90's) and it probably wouldn't be an issue in the Malibu patent case except that Malibu has a certain engineer named Tim Lopes who happened to work at Centurion and helped design the original CATS system. The CATS drawings are in the Surfgate patent and it is specifically pointed out. It might not stand up in court, but it was included in the settlement between Malibu and Correct Craft which means it does apply.

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I hear the engine warranty is going up to 5 years (with an hour limit).

I believe it's been 3 years historically, correct?

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Cwazy1    89
53 minutes ago, Sparkycollier said:

I hear the engine warranty is going up to 5 years (with an hour limit).

I believe it's been 3 years historically, correct?

PCM and Crusader are already at 5 year for 2017. 

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